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Post by doublechevron on May 9, 2017 12:41:15 GMT 10
I picked up a couple of exterior access doors on ebay that were very cheap. I traced them out and used a nibbler to cut away the cladding. Of course there was wiring behind one of them ( sigh ). 12volts and 240volts! Note: the double uprights. This isn't about strength in the frame... Wherever the ply overlaps inside the caravan, they run these double uprights to keep the ply evenly locked together. I cut away the inner ply with a stanley knife again ... and cut away the uprights. Then After framing the openings to carry the weight of the cut uprights .... wow the tutorials online for fitting these doors just hack the uprights out and leave it at that .... Why would anyone cut through the frame and not support it ? I just stuck the doors in using Selleys Flexiseal (very cheap if you buy it by the sausage at bunnings) seeya Shane L.
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Post by doublechevron on May 9, 2017 12:34:56 GMT 10
I just fitted the doors with some magnetic catches. The big door under the bed just has some rotating tags. The main reason for that big door under the bed, is I initially thought I'd put a reverse cycle split system head behind this door. I just ended up thinking it wouldn't work out though. This should be a lot easier than pulling the couch to bits. seeya, Shane L.
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Post by doublechevron on May 9, 2017 12:30:40 GMT 10
So i bravely hacked holes into the caravan with a stanley knife. I traced around the existing frame with the knife so I didn't need to frame it. under the bed had chipboard re-enforcing, so I had to use the jigsaw ... So I'll need to put a couple of uprights in the opening to make sure it's strong enough (i'm sure it'll be fine, but why not be careful). The panels just look roughly hacked out bits of ply ............ because they are! I found this timber at bunnings.... as you can see it's already rebated at the back. It's about $9.00 for 3meters. Typical bunnings nuts. You'll need 10 lengths on the shelf to find one even remotely straight. IT's also all crappy 10cm lengths glued together to form a long length. It should look ok though. My brother saw what I was trying to do, and told me I need to make a 90 degree angle to sit the edge bits in to assemble. He also lent me his nice slide saw and staple gun. I just used his stapler to throw some staples through the thickest part after gluing it with wood glue. However I found the tension of the staples pulled the joints apart slightly. So I weighted it down and gave it overnight to dry. I stained them with some stain i had floating around... 'cos they were looking very grubby very quickly. Then I glued the panels in ... and weighted htem so they'd stay clamped overnight.
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Post by doublechevron on May 9, 2017 12:27:14 GMT 10
There is some threads over the forum of what else I've needed to do to the caravan. One thing my wife was less than keen on, is how difficult it is to get into the storage areas around the caravan. Our caravan has about 10 under seat storage boxes. ( one under each set of bunks at the back), a huge "L" shaped lounge with 6 cushions and about 6 lift out panels and the main fold up bed has a huge box under it). To get to the storage area under the couch, you need to strip the cushions from the seats and lift out all of the fragile chipboard panels. This is the big "L" shaped couch. With the bunks, you need to remove the bottom bunks mattress and lift out the two chipboard lift out sections. See how small the "hole" to extract the mattresses. the lift out panels aren't really readily accessible with the mattresses in place. With the main bed, you have to fold the bed down, unmake the bed, remove the mattress and lift the two lift out sections out from the base. Ideal would be 1/2 dozen "doors" that allow access to these areas. I'm thinking... seeya, Shane L.
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Post by doublechevron on Mar 30, 2017 9:01:10 GMT 10
Yep, I completely agree about what is being built here at the moment - you wouldn't catch me dead with one of those. I'd still like to see you open that think up when parked between 2 other caravans at a truck stop, etc. That's a really good point... I'm guessing you'd need to pull up at the roadside rest stops where there is acres of open space. A carpark at the local maccas isn't going to cut it I'd love to try one for a travelling week away (ie; not a week camped in one spot) to see how it works out.
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Post by doublechevron on Mar 29, 2017 8:47:02 GMT 10
Very clever design, and overall I like it, but there are a few issues that I can see that would stop me buying one as it sits right now. 1 - Most sites in caravan parks (if that's your thing) allow for long vans length ways - you would need to unhitch it and spin it 90 degrees to use it in a lot of caravan parks. 2 - Pulling up on the side of the road or at a rest area for a cuppa becomes hard work as it needs to be mostly open to get in the door. 3 - For some reason, the bed looks really cumbersome to get in and out of - I would have thought they could do something better with the room they have. 4 - No room for solar panels. When I free camp, I need around 300 watts to keep my 2 x 100Ah batteries fully charged in the Summer when I'm using a fan all night and running the Engel. 5 - It's French.... Sorry Shane, I'm a Pom through and through and it just rubs me up the wrong way... 7 out of 10 though, and it shows what good design can do over standard thinking. Also, what price point is it at? I wouldn't expect it to be cheap, and it doesn't need to be - compared to what's being made and charged over here, I think it would be a very viable option so just wondering. Yes, I'd picked those up when I looked at it ... and lack of storage space, and likely little to no capacity for carrying drinking and grey water.... But you can't have "everything" in a tiny space. Look at the monstrosities being built in Australia now. 3+ tons, bloody enormous with uncomfortable tiny seating for only two. THis biggest issue I see with the 'van is you would need to rotate it 90degree onto any site (which would be very easy if you have a powered jockey wheel. Setting it up on the side of the road is a simple push of a button, far superior to anyone that's used a windup camper trailer seeya, Sahne L.
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Post by doublechevron on Mar 9, 2017 9:40:20 GMT 10
I'm keen to hear from anyone that has fitted a cheap camera that works for hooking up trailers.... especially if you can bluetooth to it from your phone for example, so don't have to hard wire it in. seeya, Shane L. Im looking Shane. I like the idea of being able to move the camera from behind the car to behind the van when i need to. I also am trying to avoid getting another screen or mirror attachment. There are many cameras that now come with bluetooth or wifi, and certainly reading the net many people have asked the same question. Yes, I want to be able to clip it to my bullbar for when I've moved the tongue to the bullbar (to push the caravan around). I don't know if bluetooth or wireless will make the distance so you can reach the back of your caravan. You may need hard wired for this.
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Post by doublechevron on Mar 8, 2017 15:49:09 GMT 10
I'm keen to hear from anyone that has fitted a cheap camera that works for hooking up trailers.... especially if you can bluetooth to it from your phone for example, so don't have to hard wire it in.
seeya, Shane L.
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Post by doublechevron on Mar 6, 2017 16:16:00 GMT 10
On the sister site there has been a little discussion on who's who in insurance.Comments got the better of me so I decided to phone the favorite Sha**0ns. Our Classic car on agreed $50k was $528.00 (Sha88ons) Ryno $335.65 Their words: "We have had a look at your van type on line & we are not interested in camping style vans, only teardrop/small styles that are towed with hot rods & not used for camping"
Go figure? ? Ryno van premium at agreed $20K ,premium $366.00. Make up your own mind. Shannons is only interested in classic cars... they cover modern crap and caravans under sufferance .... and you pay for it. Ryno might be cheaper .... try and ring them and ask them a question ... or make a claim and see how you go. I'm happy to pay more for shannons... for starters, I have had two claims over the years... Absolutely painless.... someone always answers the phone .. .they are australian.. they understand what I'm saying ... they help you. I've never had a problem. Try claiming your cheap insurance and spend hours on the phone to some indian in idia being paid $5.00 a day that doesn't give a nuts ... and see how much you like your insurance then. Last time I tried the ring around when my insurance was due ... I spend 20minutes in a queue just waiting for a quote through one of the big guys before I hung up and paid the renewel. You see if they can't answer the phone just to give you an insurance quote ... Imagine having to chase the pack of assholes if you actually made a claim A couple of year back .. I think it was AAMI used to advertise "phone is always answered by an australian". Well I tried 3 times before giving up after 20minutes of listening to hold music... So I hang up and rang back... Some australian women answer the phone ... "welcome to AAMI ... Please hold" ... bang straight to india and a waiting queue. So I yell over the top of her " DOn't bloody transfer me ... I just want a quote" .... "er ... sorry sir, I just asnwer the phone, I don't have access to any insurance services". Yes, bullshit advertsing "always answered by an australian to throw you straight to a phone queue in india".
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Post by doublechevron on Mar 4, 2017 17:01:23 GMT 10
The one I posted isn't a tent/pop up/window up canvas thing. It's a solid 'van with shower and toilet, lounge area and full sized bed ... I bet it's not super light though!
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Post by doublechevron on Mar 4, 2017 15:55:31 GMT 10
I'm importing one of these when I'm old enough to retire and travel. More seating area than a 26' aussie 'van with cafe seating! youtu.be/ZC8__hhtMTw
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Post by doublechevron on Mar 3, 2017 9:58:16 GMT 10
My comparison is with my model Zephyr which came from the factory with 2.5L 6cyl and 86bhp or 68kw in new money it weighs approx 1100kg and tows the 1T van like a dream As it stands today however I must admit it is a different kettle of fish with a set of headers and a small cam and electronic ignition and some dyno tuning by a mate we now put 79kw on the ground at the back wheels which is a considerable improvement on new figures Oh, yes different kettle of fish. I read the above... it's 1220kg, 65'ish hp .... with is damn near identical weight and power as the old car I have here .... Don't get me wrong, it would do it .... As would the old Citroen no problems at all..... It would be excruciating up hills though.... with literally hundreds of cars queued up behind you. Sad really, because I'd love to tow an old caravan with a nice old car. If I owned the Humber, I'd be looking at something like an early Camp-Let Yes ... Found one!!! www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/hawthorn-east/camper-trailers/retro-scandica-camp-let-glx/1140774805Note: the tare weight of them. THey are a fiberglass clam shell that fold over with a swing out kitchen.
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Post by doublechevron on Mar 2, 2017 21:24:36 GMT 10
I have no doubts you are right ( you obviously know way more about these than me ) I just checked the wiki pages and thought "no way". so you are right, I was looking at the wrong car. The '59 model had a 4spd gearbox... and very slightlier gruntier motor The 1.9 litre citroen ID19 in the same era was about 5 seconds quicker to 60mph (about 15 seconds rather than 21) and had a much higher top speed (mine will do over 90mph ... indicated). I have no doubt it's a lovely old car to travel in ... But why put yourself through the stress of towing with one. Find a v8 engined vehicle from the same era ... it'll still be very slow going, but at least you might be able to cruise at 50'ish mph with the caravan on. You even have the old Jags, Mercs and a few other European/.pommy vehicles from this era that aren't expensvie, but have large'ish 6 & 8 cylinder engines. I can't find much information on the 1959 model... it seems to have a 4spd gearbox though. To put this into perspective. The Citroen was a very low power car that acellerated slow for it's time .... and this is even slower than that .... seeya, Shane L.
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Post by doublechevron on Mar 2, 2017 11:11:45 GMT 10
You guys are joking right ? Were talking a 3spd gearbox and about 60hp aren't we. The old Vangard will probably struggle to travel at the speed limit *not towing*!! I'm sure it'll move a small lightweight 'van around town, but on the highway your going to probalby be stuck in 2nd gear a lot of time ... 40'ish mph with a freight train of cars lined up behind you!
It's not my idea of a relaxing holiday! My old Citroen ID19 would be a brilliant towcar, but it's simply to slow these days to use to tow something like a caravan. I'd be grinding up every gradiant in 2nd or 3rd gear ( 4spd gearbox ).... I often do Geelong to Ballarat, it's a long climb, single lane the entire way .... always with a strong head wind. You'd probably be in 2nd gear doing 35mph the entire way. Not my idea of fun ( sure it was probably expected and not a problem in the 1960's when every truck and a lot of cars were just as slow).
Fergi tractors are only about 25hp! The engine is governed to much lower revs in that application.
seeya, Shane L.
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Post by doublechevron on Feb 28, 2017 22:06:11 GMT 10
We (daughter & her 'ubby with 'elp) are in the market for an affordable family van. Your spot on the good ones are usually gone before we get to them others are not worth the dollars people are asking. You end up paying a lot more than you intend and expect... Because you get so tired of wasting time looking at junk ( often expensive rotten rubbish ). The problem is everyone lies "Is there any water damage, it's a 6 hour round trip for me to come and look at it" .... "No mate, this one has never leaked". So you jump in your car and drive all the way there.... Open the door and don't even bother to get in it as the stink of mould just about knocks you off your feet..... So you voice your "extreme displeasure" ... and get back into your car and drive back home.
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Post by doublechevron on Feb 28, 2017 9:17:16 GMT 10
Hi Shane, I used to do that too with five acres,until I discovered dorpers ( sheep that shed their wool) Now the sheep look after 4 acres and I look after the house and garden. Cheers hughdeani That sounds good. We have had horses in the paddock (they died), sheep in the paddock ( they died ... but were delicious ), goats (they died)... I decided they were the paddocks of death... Our fences aren't good enough for sheep. Foxes take goats ( well I reckon it must have been a pack of big domestic dogs... how do foxes take goats ?). Either way, it's so much easier just to mow the things and not worry about livestock! seeya, Shane L.
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Post by doublechevron on Feb 28, 2017 8:33:50 GMT 10
Bought the house to accommodate the kids, kids grown up all moved out.. Now wife rings me on the mobile to find me (in the house)!! Looking for acreage so I can have a shed and she can have a veggie garden... my daughter would kill for your van shane. There is some absolutely lovely "lifestyle" places very close to the capital cities ... VERY CHEAP if your retired. You see there is no jobs in the regional towns, so the housing values are low. If you can, get a place with paddocks around it rather htan one big manicured yard. That way you just keep the "house paddock" with gardens etc... and put whatever you like out in the paddocks. We only have about 4 acres, but I was finding keeping ontop of the grass cutting very difficult (especially as the two small paddocks we have are rough). I was forever breaking the ride-on mower ... and struggling to find the time to cut the grass.... So if your going to get land with paddocks.... Get yourself an old tractor and big slasher or flail ... About 4 months ago I bought and ancient International 434 ( it turns out I suck I buying tractors too.... I broke all the compression rings in the motor with 2 months ... sigh ... But get this. An inframe rebuild kit is $430 ). So I put new pistons, liners, rings, rod bearings etc... through the thing and have a motor than runs like new now (you couldn't even fix a lawn mower engine for that ... and there not 2.5litre 4 cylinder industrial diesel!) Anyway, you'll never break a tractor ... or wear it out (unlike a ride on mower) and with a 5/6 foot slasher you'll run over your paddocks in a couple of hours. The biggest bonus I wasn't aware of is you sit up high ... at the front with the grass being expelled out the back. So your not sitting in the plume of dust/grass/pollen for hours at a time (great for someone like me that gets hayfever badly). Oh, and you can also chase up rotary hoes, tillers, ploughs etc.... for your wifes vegie garden and save the back You can buy 20x12 meter barns for about $18k for the kit I keep showing this to my wife, but she's so far showing little interest The biggest issue would be the cost of the floor. It really hard for families. I've seen a few 1980's families 'vans sell over the last few months on the facebooks groups that have a bunk room like mine. Reasonable condition (but not as nice inside as the one I have). And they are selling for the $18,000 region It's sad, because what family with 3 or 4 kids can afford that sort of money for a caravan that'll be used a few weeks a year ( they won't be used more than that as going away is so expensive.... and it's hard work if you have 3+ kids). Gee's the kids love it though! seeya Shane L.
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Post by doublechevron on Feb 24, 2017 19:13:17 GMT 10
Ah yes ... the age old issue of rebuilding and "they don't make them anymore" .... You want insane ... Just have a look at what old falcans and holdens sell for these days. You'd have to be bloody nuts to pay hundreds of thousands for an old XY ..... But poeple do ( even the people that own them reckon there pretty "ordinary" to drive too ). seeya, Shane L. Those 'Old" Falcons and Holdens selling for mega bucks are not ordinary garden variety models they are the upper end performance special limited build models come back to garden variety 1000's built mum and dad poverty packs and the number drops dramatically not back to RR or Citroen $$$$$'s but back to in most cases to sub 50K which is fair considering the costs associated with restoring one The money is in the rarity of the model and how popular the image of it was in it's day sadly RR NEVER had much of an image here nor did Citroen or Renault they were the Great Wall Cherry or Mahindra of the 60's and 70's due to limited distribution and lack of service knowledge and repair facilities All newcomers to the market had a struggle in Aus my mate had a BP garage in the 60's and for a while had a Mazda and Renault distribution licence there was no dealership he sold one got another to park in the service bay did not inspire confidence re warranty Renaults ? They were bloody brilliant. I grew up in the back seat of R10s and R16's. Incredibly reliable .. the old R16TS would leave pretty much every car of it's era in it's wake out on the highway. Sadly they are worth absolutely nothing these days. I can't understand the value of old holdens and fords. They were real ordinary in there day ... and are no better today. The Renault 16TS would have been as fast in a straight line as a lot of V8's in it's day ... and certainly had a top speed close to them... It out rode and out handled them... And is worthless today. The renault 16 we had for about 8 years ... all it got was the occasional oil change ... and that's it. It never missed a beat. I think it got a set of spark plugs at one point after I said to my father "you know it runs on two cylinders a lot of the time when mums driving it" ... he pulled the plugs and found them completely burnt away. seeya, Shane L.
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Post by doublechevron on Feb 24, 2017 14:49:42 GMT 10
I remember a few years back there was an orange Charger for sale, looked in original condition, asking $180k. So I think there is still a LOT of money out there and people think "I cant take it with me" so splash out on sentimental purchases. Funnily enough, my wife gives my flack cos I have a "wreck rangie" taking up space in the garage and I keep telling her its an 'investment' Oh ... I see the probem .... You need to build a nice new shed to put stuff where she can't see in ..... They only usually complain when they can see stuff to complain about (if they dont' see the car in question.... they obviously will complain about something else ... ). I'd suggest a nice 30 x 12meter shed for the backyard. That's what I would like A cars monetary value is irrelevant to me ... If it makes me smile ... that's all that matters (just as well I like $500 shitboxes right ? ). seeya, Shane L.
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Post by doublechevron on Feb 24, 2017 12:00:37 GMT 10
If you like crappy old land rovers .... this is actually quite interesting ( did you hear how much they sell the "new" rebuilt old range rovers for at the start ). youtu.be/aJeCMcVIdZoseeya, Shane L. 135,000 GB thats equiv to $220,000 Aud what wacko would pay that thats 2 x brand new 200 series Toyota's or 3 x Prado's I would love to meet the person who was willing to pay that I have a bridge to sell That's brand new 2017 Land Rover Range Rover SDV8 Autobiography Auto money Ah yes ... the age old issue of rebuilding and "they don't make them anymore" .... You want insane ... Just have a look at what old falcans and holdens sell for these days. You'd have to be bloody nuts to pay hundreds of thousands for an old XY ..... But poeple do ( even the people that own them reckon there pretty "ordinary" to drive too ). seeya, Shane L.
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Post by doublechevron on Feb 24, 2017 8:53:24 GMT 10
If you like crappy old land rovers .... this is actually quite interesting ( did you hear how much they sell the "new" rebuilt old range rovers for at the start ). youtu.be/aJeCMcVIdZoseeya, Shane L.
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Post by doublechevron on Feb 21, 2017 7:55:38 GMT 10
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Post by doublechevron on Feb 20, 2017 8:55:18 GMT 10
Intersting, that's a LOT of fabric for $100. How hard is it to put on? ( Though I have found covers hopeless. The fact you need the car clean before you put them on .... means I have several car covers ... still shiny and un-used 'cos I never have time to wash cars, let alone put covers on them!
seeya, Shane L.
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Post by doublechevron on Feb 17, 2017 11:03:15 GMT 10
Car behind is a Buick right hand drive big block Now there is a car to tow a vintage van with and no need for extension mirrors the car is wider than the caravan He'll tow the caravan .... You pay to feed the old Buick Everytime I see an old american car, I have an urge to go and watch some more roadkill (those guys have way to much fun). seeya, Shane L.
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Post by doublechevron on Feb 17, 2017 10:42:51 GMT 10
Looks like it's only switching the active. You can probably get by buying some single pole switches from the big green shed seeya, Shane L.
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