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Post by tedalley on Feb 1, 2015 16:18:21 GMT 10
Lawrence hi.
Yes the bigger springs & axle are for increasingthe tare weight but first im going to take it over another weighbridge cause i cant see how ive added 480kg. 150 - 200 maybe butnot 480.
I still havnt put the solar pannels or role-out awning.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 8:39:37 GMT 10
Lawrence hi. Yes the bigger springs & axle are for increasingthe tare weight but first im going to take it over another weighbridge cause i cant see how ive added 480kg. 150 - 200 maybe butnot 480. I still havnt put the solar pannels or role-out awning. Hi Ted
Sometimes I wonder if the original tare weight on some of these vans was ever right to start with, after reading your little hic - up, I am kicking myself for not weighing my van before starting and restore/mods. I read somewhere that an Australian manufacturer of caravans have there tare weights wrong because they only weigh a few vans and then do an average for the rest in production but don't take in too account any extra's the customers ask for and no one is the wiser.
Will be interesting to se what the second weigh comes in at.
Cheers
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Post by tedalley on Feb 2, 2015 17:04:29 GMT 10
Lawrence Hi.
Yea I agree with you about the original Tare Weight & Im kicking myself for not weighing my van before I started when I had the opportunity to do so.
Oh well *** "spilt milk"
Im going to another weighbridge tomorrow just to compare.
Does anyone know if there is a limit on the weight a single axle can carry?
Ted
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Post by tedalley on Feb 3, 2015 16:15:26 GMT 10
Today I took the Egg over another weighbridge and it was only 10kg different from the one the other day.
So it looks like its new 8 or 9 leaf springs and 50mm axle.
I'll go the extra cost and put electric brakes as the hydraulic ones are weeping again.
Now I have to find someone who makes the old length springs ---- Does anyone know who makes them?
Ted
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Post by leeron on Feb 3, 2015 16:45:11 GMT 10
Hello Ted,
Carrolls springs in Sydney will have something pre made in the measurements you need.
Or they could use your existing springs and build them into new leaf packs.
They can also re-set leaves for carrying more weight on one side, I am sure they have tweaked many a lop sided van over the years.
Leon
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Post by youngdazza on Feb 3, 2015 16:51:30 GMT 10
G'day
You should be able to get up to about 1700kg on a single axle and ford bearings and some 14in light truck tyres. With 300kg load that means your Tate weight could be up to 1400kg.
Btw I'd be curious to know how easy it is to get the registration updated to match the new weight. Would you need an engineers certificate? Insurance could be an issue if there is a mismatch.
Cheers
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Post by tedalley on Feb 4, 2015 17:23:42 GMT 10
Youngdazza Hi.
The guy at the first weigh bridge (not a public weighbridge) said that because the van is already registered all I have to do is replace the springs & Axle.
He will give me a certificate to say it meets the requirements.
I think that he does blue-slips but he said that I don't need one.
I just hope he is right 'cause after I put the roll-out awning & solar panels it will come in on Tare of 1400kg.
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Post by youngdazza on Feb 4, 2015 19:55:59 GMT 10
Ahh thats good to know tedalley. Makes sense - as long as the chassis is solid enough and the axles etc are rated to handle the weight then it should be safe.
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Post by Mustang on Feb 6, 2015 16:59:35 GMT 10
One of the most ambitious restos I've had the privilege to see. Congratulations.
I'll bet the neighbours were disappointed when it was finished?
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Post by tedalley on Feb 6, 2015 20:25:51 GMT 10
One of the most ambitious restos I've had the privilege to see. Congratulations. I'll bet the neighbours were disappointed when it was finished?
Hey Mustang.
Thanks. Well I'm not sure if they're disappointed -- I know that they are glad that I mowed my lawn last weekend (first time since last summer).
I do miss all the locals stopping for a chat (and a look) giving advice as they jog or drive past.
Anyway its not finished now that I have to get new springs & axle.
I've started putting the roll-out awning back on the van today.
Cheers
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Post by youngdazza on Feb 6, 2015 20:36:06 GMT 10
My wife wants me to do up vans and sell them so I could get some money to finish restoring the Franklin. Just wondering, now that you're almost finished your first 'van, do you have another project lined up?  |
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Post by tedalley on Feb 6, 2015 20:45:11 GMT 10
Yep dazza.
My next project is to move house (find one that has a big shed) cause I've had it with working out in the rain & hot sun.
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Post by tedalley on Feb 9, 2015 15:53:58 GMT 10
Hi folks.
We just got back from 4 days away in the van (still pricing springs, axle & brakes).
I pulled over in a rest area on the highway and checked the brakes & bearings for heat - nice & cool.
When I touched the tyres they were very hot but when I checked the Tug's tyres they were just warm.
I've got a question for the experts --
I've got 6.50 x 14LT on the van and I'm wondering what should the correct tyre pressure be?
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Post by pisces51 on Feb 9, 2015 16:41:32 GMT 10
G'day Ted, Congratulations on an outstanding effort in getting your van almost completed. Having visited your project last year, I can honestly take my hat off to you for achieving what you've done, considering it's all been done in your driveway!!   I'm astonished that your tare weight is up so high for a 19ft van. Our 1992 Windsor is 17ft 4" long, and it has a tare weight of 1120kgs, checked over the weighbridge. Your high weight is probably all those switches you put in that control panel.  If anyone else gets a chance to see inside Ted's van, have a look at the control panel...it's a beauty! For info on tyres and tyre pressures, have a read through these threads: Tyre PressureTyres for caravansFor the record, I use the "4psi rule" which has stood me in good stead for both the vans I've towed over the last four years. The Millard had 13" LT tyres, and the Windsor has 14" LT tyres, and I've ended up running 40psi on both vans, as it turned out. cheers, Al. |
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Post by tedalley on Feb 9, 2015 20:32:37 GMT 10
Gi'day Al.
Thanks for the thumbs-up. If I get the numbers viewing my van I'll have to put up a toll gate.
I wish I had known of the "4psi rule" before now - I'll try it next weekend.
OH by the way - How did the annex work-out?
Ted
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Post by pisces51 on Feb 10, 2015 10:01:31 GMT 10
The annexe is doing a fabulous job of collecting dust in the shed. It's on my "to do" list when I get the little van finished, and then I can drag it out of the shed into the yard and custom make the annexe I want out of it. cheers, Al. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 10:28:58 GMT 10
Hi Ted,
I have Good Year 'ECOVAN' 13' LT tyres on HR Holden rims on my Egg - (dual axel - Tare 950KG - GVM 1200KG - current weight is close to GVM).
The Good Year Tyre Guy told me 35PSI would be a good all round tyre pressure (ride, towing & wear).
The Tyre Guy who made up my spares (same Tyres) told me 30PSI to make it a soft ride.
I told him I'd like to try 40PSI but he wouldn't have a bar of it so I split the difference and stayed with 35PSI.
The Egg has done about 9,000/10,000KM so far on all types of bitumen (freeways, hi-ways & narrow country roads) as well as long tows like Canberra to Hervey Bay QLD return and I can say that so far (touch wood) I have not had a problem at all. No signs of wear, no sign of scrubbing, no signs of overheating & the tyres look ok at that pressure.
I keep a close eye on my tyres - all my tyres - and all seems good so far.
Horses for courses I guess.
Cheers, Des
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 14:51:26 GMT 10
Ted. Whats with the chimney ? Is it just to move excess heat away from the walls? I'm looking at the same unit for my van but was planning to mount it in between the gas bottles in its own box
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Post by tedalley on Feb 17, 2015 19:24:03 GMT 10
Ted. Whats with the chimney ? Is it just to move excess heat away from the walls? I'm looking at the same unit for my van but was planning to mount it in between the gas bottles in its own box
chuckt hi.
Yes the chimney is to get rid if heat & I like the look of chimneys.
I originally had my to the side of gas bottles covered in an alloy box.
My plumber checked the legality of it & showed me that the ignition source has to be a minimum of (I think) 600mm above & 600mm to the side of a gas bottle on a caravan.
This meant that I would have to have it in front of the window & couldn't open it -- not a good look.
So I moved it to the side, of the van, but made it quickly detachable as its too wide when towing.
So if you want it passed for rego get a gas plumber to certify it.
Ted
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 18:49:31 GMT 10
hmm ok ill just leave it off until after rego  |
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Post by Jarrod on Mar 20, 2015 11:22:56 GMT 10
Hi Ted,
Nice work on your Franklin. I own a 69/70 Regent and have rot in the bottom rail on the drivers side/RHS. Unfortunately my lack of skills will not have me pulling the wall out to repair! The pics of you doing so with yours scares me..!
I was wondering if you could advise form your experience, if there is any way that the rot in the bottom rail/timber plate could be repaired form the inside of the van without dismantling the van? Or is there another way to support the wall from dropping? Behind where my fridge is the cladding has started to bulge out so i am guessing that is the most affected part. Also, are there any timber uprights in the wall?
Apologies i am a guest on this site therefore can't add a pic. I am a member on vintage vans.
Thanks in advance Ted. Jarrod
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Post by Jarrod on Mar 20, 2015 11:28:41 GMT 10
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Post by snoops on Mar 20, 2015 17:48:40 GMT 10
Just a quick one on weights and Rego. In Vic at least they take your word for the gross weight. My weigh bridge ticket showed 1100Kg and they asked what was on it then. It had 2 x full gas bottles, 1/2 tank water, and all bedding, etc. only food, drinks and clothes not in it. They asked what the gross weight should be - I told them the axle was good for 1400kg - which is the manufactures SWL for it. She said fine, but the gross weight will be under that. I said 1300kg, and she said yep, that will do, so I have that as my gross mass. I'm under that, but probably only just. Once I get it fully set up, I'll weigh it again to be sure. i do however have the luxury of heaps of room in the tow vehicle, which itself was built to carry 1500kg of missiles in it, so I'll never come close to overloading that. Oh, and I run 50psi in the LT tyres on the van. |
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Post by atefooterz on Mar 20, 2015 18:17:58 GMT 10
OK i am going to up my LT tyers to 40 from 35psi then I recon mine were more than 60psi, on the trek to Adelaide in 43c air with insane heat from road (well over 50c)The only time my Transit has had the temp gauge move from it`s usual centre possie. Going home in only 33c no issues haha! |
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Post by tedalley on Mar 30, 2015 21:03:33 GMT 10
Thanks for the tips ate & atog
Well today I got June to take me down to Port Kembla to get my new springs.
Dennis said that he can do the Axle & new electric brakes. S i'll have to go back with my old axle.
Hopefully my back will ne ok to install it all onto my van!
Today I also made a turntable to place the hatch mould, hopefully this will make it easy to fibreglass. - I'll know tomorrow.
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