New and Millard 16ft 14866

[tasmillard]

Thanks.  With the plastic, do you have a link to an example so i can see what they look like?

[atefooterz]

Apr 13, 2015 17:42:17 GMT 10 camper2van said:

Hi Tasmillard
Nice work on levelling that floor .
Regarding your cupboard doors . You can get and l have used a light wait plastic board .
We use it for making drying cupboards and out side cabinets . Its much lighter than chip board and easy to work with.
Used it on my replacement cabinet doors .

I expected lightweight plastic material from your link & got boxed choccies hah! www.sears.com/en_intnl/dap/shopping-tourism-au-en.html

[camper2van]

Apr 13, 2015 18:20:03 GMT 10 tasmillard said:

Thanks.  With the plastic, do you have a link to an example so i can see what they look like?

We call it Versa board . It comes in 12, 16 and 18 mm  8x4s . Its paintable but its a little pricey .

In Melbourne you can get it from places like Robot Trading , but places like Bunning's and the Chocolate box will not have it.

There are some pics of it in my cabanna to royal makeover . Not able to get any pics up at the moment .

Hope this helps

Cheers Mark

 

 

[tasmillard]

Thx Mark.

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We used a polycoated ply board, can only buy at mitre 10. It's white and shiny. Built pine frames and used pine to strengthen , then used plastic angle to frame them, very light and easy to clean. Photos in viscount duralvan March 11th post.

[tasmillard]

Thanks caz, ill look at that option also.

I decided to get some bling for my rims.  These were painted in the usual chrome/silver rim paint, so I sanded them back and painted them black.  Being black, with black tyres, meant I lost detail, so I bought some rim trims.  Would look even nice with a set of hub caps if I can find some!

I still have the other two rims on the van (also painted silver) which ill paint (1 only) black and that will be the spare.  BTW the tyres are light truck with a max load of 730kg each.

[Mustang]

Love them. I have the same to go onto Vincent's wheels, now for hubcaps?

[tasmillard]

They are not bad for the price, and if one pops out its no big deal as it comes in a set of 4. Yes still on the look out for hub caps, but obviously a cosmetic thing so not urgent. Got to keep on with the reno work, so prepping wall for painting and also put on 2 coats of deck oil inside on the floor to give it that extra level of protection.

[Mustang]

Apr 18, 2015 7:52:52 GMT 10 tasmillard said:

They are not bad for the price, and if one pops out its no big deal as it comes in a set of 4. Yes still on the look out for hub caps, but obviously a cosmetic thing so not urgent. Got to keep on with the reno work, so prepping wall for painting and also put on 2 coats of deck oil inside on the floor to give it that extra level of protection.

I have two HT left over, they are yours for the postage if you are interested, they are 14".

[tasmillard]

Thanks mustang, so they suit 14" rims, not 13"?  They wont be of any use to me if they are for 14" rims

Placed one of the rims on, after putting another coat of guard protector paint.  The other side needs more work as the wheel chewed some material off getting it out. I also noticed that even tho they are 175R13s as the old ones were, they are actually narrow which meant fitting them was easier!

[tasmillard]

Need your opinions... looking at laminate paint and theres two brands, Flood and White Knight. Which one have you used or recommend? I like Flood's no primer required, hence quicker job, but White Knight has very good reputation. Thoughts?

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May 3, 2015 12:34:48 GMT 10 tasmillard said:

Need your opinions... looking at laminate paint and theres two brands, Flood and White Knight. Which one have you used or recommend? I like Flood's no primer required, hence quicker job, but White Knight has very good reputation. Thoughts?

We used an acrylic primer than 2 top coats of low sheen acrylic on the walls and ceilings and on the cupboards we used acrylic primer with 2 tops coats of semi gloss acrylic enamel with different colours on the doors. Patched and sanded were needed.

Cheers 

[tasmillard]

I ended up buying the 'Flood' brand, tile and laminate paint as recommended by various people I spoke to.  Now yesterday I spent 4 hours doing the cutting in first as this paint requires a wet-on-wet application for the second coat... in other words paint a section and then repaint the second coat within 5 minutes.  I had my phone as a stop watch to make sure I was within time.

Anyway, now that the paint is dry (although can take up to 3 weeks to cure before more coats can be applied!!) I can see paint brush streak marks where I painted, even though I used a good quality brush. The paint is high gloss as expected, so no I can see imperfections/streak marks through its reflection.  I am not happy with this and I can only think that by using the roller (mohair) that I can get close to the edges and overlap the paintbrush marks.

Can anyone who has used laminate paint give me advice here on what to do?  Should I sand back a little to try and smooth out the brush ripples, or?


Heres a section that came out OKish with the brush... you can see my reflection isnt too distorted.


Here is an example where the brush marks have smeared the surface, making it look streaky.  I wouldnt be too concerned if the paint wasnt so high gloss, but because it is I am really concerned about the rest of the walls, bearing in mind that I will use rollers.

Advice?

[atefooterz]

According to all the great application links posted around it may be (edit) too much thinners or too hot/ quick drying,from roll to tip, inside the van, while painting.

[tasmillard]

Well I added no thinners and its Tassie, unless hot means over 15C lol

Hence why im a bit miffed about the end results.

[atefooterz]

OK so then you can blame the supplier/manufacturer for thinning the paint & demand refund/ discount! The only other variable is paint dried on the brush, do you wrap it in a bag in between rolling on? A great way to use up those supermarket bags, use 1 corner then the other then a new bag, otherwise dried-gloopy paint from that process to annoy you.

[tasmillard]

Thanks for your input. I am starting to think that it was the paint on the brush starting to dry, causing the bristles to stiffen.  I am hoping that when I apply the roller I will be able to mask the majority of the problems.  I was thinking, should I lightly sand the area before painting with a roller?  I cannot see anywhere that says I can/cannot sand prior to painting again.

[tasmillard]

Well I almost finished the interior painting, ran out of paint (and puff) with two cupboards to go.  I am not happy with the results, and I am thinking I stuffed this up for two main reasons:

1) I painted the cutting in and left it to dry before applying the roller wall coat, leaving a very clear brush marks
2) Wet on wet paint with Floor advertises 5 minutes between first and second coat.  I should have left it longer as its cold weather and some parts has runs on it where the first coat was not tacky enough.

So I am thinking that my next steps are to wait until fully cured (about 3 weeks), then sand back the imperfections, or perhaps the lot, with a fine sand paper and apply a final coat through out seeing that there are still patches as I didnt want the paint to run!!! (hence my WTF moment with point 2).

Here is the "Millard Caravan - Part 2: Wall and Cupboards renovation" video so you can see what I mean.

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Tas

It's hard work to paint a caravan and gets boring too   My wife was really picky when I was painting ours and would comment on every bit of detail. By the end I couldn't care less if lines weren't exact of a bit of dark grey got on the light grey. Anyway now were using the van, no one cares about the paint job and even tho I know some spot aren't perfect, everyone who has looked in there say good things.

keep on, keeping on (old paint ad)

cheers

[tasmillard]

Thanks mate - yes I know im being super critical so lets see how it goes. Of course, not having any furniture in there doesnt help with finding imperfections either.  I am really getting to the point in the project where I am getting tired, so need to just finish it over the next few months.

Cheers,

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May 18, 2015 17:49:41 GMT 10 tasmillard said:

Thanks mate - yes I know im being super critical so lets see how it goes. Of course, not having any furniture in there doesnt help with finding imperfections either.  I am really getting to the point in the project where I am getting tired, so need to just finish it over the next few months.

Cheers,

One thing that help and inspired me was I was going away with a mate fishing using my tent/swag and we went to places where people could free camp and I would sit there of an afternoon looking at the people sitting outside there vans enjoying the sunsets/ 5 o'clock drinks etc 

This would re build my motivation back up to keep going - thinking one day this will be me..

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It's really hard when you've got nothing else in there. I was hard on my finish till I started putting everything back in.
I sanded all of mine down with a sander. filled all the spots I could. cut in all the awkward parts, then sprayed with a spray gun. I did do some touch ups and redo's with a roller.
Though it wasn't tile paint, I actually used normal house interior paint. After speaking with 2 people, bunnings and masters, they even said, they didn't think I needed tile paint so long as your sanding and prep was done right.
The doors were sanded back and done in exterior black again, off a gun.

I have used tile paint before, in our bathroom, and it is horrible. one reason I didn't like going it again.

[Mustang]

I dare use a phrase from "Lisa Mora" who produces admirabily "Vintage Caravan Magazine"

She suggested after covering years of Classic Car Shows that a lot of people were turned off from showing their cars because they were not up to the 
trailer queens that were winning all the prizes.

She hoped that Vintage & Classic van owners could get together have fun & be proud of their vans, even though they were under renovation or improved to the best the owners could do, without premium paint jobs & thousands of dollars invested.

Surley we all aim to have fun on the best budget we can afford, enjoying the resto period we were bought up in, working on our vans for our delight & those that admire them.

[tasmillard]

Thanks all and great perspectives.  I know that I am a little bit of a perfectionist, even tho I am working on a 45yo caravan and its never going to be perfect and I agree that an empty van makes every imperfection stand out.  I am still happy with the progress so far and the colour looks much better than before, although the original colours were not so bad.

I will tweak it a bit more and then start the re-assembling, still need to do a bed frame and front seats, basically putting it back as originally designed.  Of course before that comes the lino floor.

Thanks again all for your input, its great to know others have gone through the same.

[tasmillard]

Today we got a sunny, relatively warm day so I decided to finish off the painting inside the van, along with some of the furniture.  Outcome was much better, so happy with the results.  Here is the video.