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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2017 8:01:46 GMT 10
Congratulations!! looks like that tasmillard (tasviscount ) is going to have a sister on the forum. Looks like a great project and looking forward to seeing the progress. Cheers
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Post by snoops on Oct 9, 2017 9:32:29 GMT 10
Yep, it's very similar - just a few years newer - a 1970 model from what we can gather. Layout is slightly different, but they certainly are very similar van's.
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Post by snoops on Oct 9, 2017 12:18:12 GMT 10
Well there is a surprise!!! Congratulations Snoops on the Acquisition. Looking forward to another masterpiece. Yes, much wheeling and dealing goes on behind the scenes.
Thankfully this van doesn't need half the work as the Franklin and as I plan to leave it as standard as possible, it shouldn't take too long to wrangle into a usable state.
Hoping to have the brakes, suspension and hitch all sorted before I move it, so it will mostly be cosmetic after it's home and re sealed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2017 14:58:32 GMT 10
Just wonder if you are going to remove the dinet and fit two recliners 🤔 the side cabinet would be nice for a bar next to your chair 😀
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Post by snoops on Oct 9, 2017 15:30:07 GMT 10
Now there's an idea....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2017 16:23:17 GMT 10
Now there's an idea.... Its come with age mate
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Post by doublechevron on Nov 11, 2017 21:46:28 GMT 10
Wow ... WELL DONE GETTING THAT !!!! Don't modify this one for an ensuite though ..... You see family 'vans in that condition are IMPOSSIBLE to find. If you clean and re-seal it.... You'll have a hell of a collectable 'van. Just watch over the next couple of months on all the for sale sites. Families just can't find these bunk room 'vans. seeya, Shane L. PS: You will need to get that into a shed. It's going to leak like a sieve once it twists and flexes after travelling along the roads.
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Post by snoops on Nov 12, 2017 12:13:08 GMT 10
It will be resealed as soon as I get it home, and live under a cover (which it is now) until that's done.
Sorry, but this will have an ensuite going in as the highest priority - it's basically the only 'must have' SWMBO wants so will need to keep her happy there.
The bunk room should be staying close to what you see - I'll remove and store the top bunks and we'll use the 2 singles on the bottom, so really it just loses the couch opposite the kitchen.
Planning on keeping this one indefinitely so not looking to flip it or anything like that.
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Post by 78466noM on Nov 14, 2017 8:00:01 GMT 10
your new van looks good from what you have said shouldn't be any nasty surprises
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Post by snoops on Nov 14, 2017 17:04:40 GMT 10
Hoping not. Will be making a start on getting it moved next week, so axles greased, a bit of work on the draw bar and hitch, etc.
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Post by snoops on Nov 19, 2017 14:36:19 GMT 10
Went around to the van today and started on making it safe to tow the 300 odd KM it's first trip will be. It has new rims and tyres on it, so all good there - they were needed to move it the 100 metres from the old property it was on to where it is now next door. The hitch and the mounting plate were U/S so cut all that off and marked up some 6mm plate to replace this. Found the existing normal mild steel bolts were a bit far gone... IMG_1055 by Gavin Gregory, on Flickr Hitch gone - it's all cleaned up ready to weld the new bit on, I didn't get a photo of that. Despit how bad it looks, the actual drawbar is in excellent condition and this is all the repairs it needs. IMG_1053 by Gavin Gregory, on Flickr Checked the bearing out on one axle and found them to be in mint condition, although I will repack them - the brakes even work too, nothing needed here except a bit of an adjustment - they are cable operated, and will do fine for the time being, electric brakes are on the list for this van in the future before I start taking it long distances. IMG_1056 by Gavin Gregory, on Flickr So, I'll be back next week to weld the new bits on and get the front end finished.
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Post by snoops on Nov 19, 2017 14:50:29 GMT 10
Onto the inside, I thought I'd have a rat around inside and take some more pics - these will give you a much better idea of the condition - which is as good as you'd find a van of this age. It's like a time warp - everything is as it was left 30 years ago when it was last used. Remember these? IMG_1069 by Gavin Gregory, on Flickr And found this in a draw. IMG_1073 by Gavin Gregory, on Flickr Hot water service is a copper tanked unit so should still be ok if the element is. It is only electric unfortunately so the fate of this unit is a bit unknown as I really need a gas unit. Note the condition of the timber - this is one of the forward seating areas - it's absolutely immaculate. IMG_1065 by Gavin Gregory, on Flickr And some other shots - the stove, and then a overall view of the kitchen - note the hot and cold taps - all factory fitted. Note the overall condition of the kitchen - pretty much immaculate apart from some dust. IMG_1067 by Gavin Gregory, on Flickr IMG_1068 by Gavin Gregory, on Flickr Factory clock and a view of the cupboards and mirror above the kitchen - again, immaculate condition apart from dust and a bit of trim that needs glueing back into position. The light fittings are again - like new. IMG_1071 by Gavin Gregory, on Flickr IMG_1072 by Gavin Gregory, on Flickr And the biggest bonus for SWMBO - she wasn't thrilled at the overall 'brownness' of the van, but I found that the cushions are all in mint condition and have a really nice colourful pattern on the back of them - thankfully all of them have been face down for 30 years so non have faded and all are in excellent condition. This couch area - that folds down into a double bed (really cool setup actually) is where the ensuite will be going - there is heaps of room here so should be a pearler. I would love to find some paneling material the same as this when the time comes so I can make it look as factory as possible from the outside. IMG_1063 by Gavin Gregory, on Flickr Also worth noting that the annex is complete and in in good order but haven't fully pulled it apart - it's fairly small and covers the back half of the van, but has an open awning that covers the front half, so best of both worlds. The original owners Son was also telling me today they had a galvanised shower that they used to set up in the annex - it was a base, with 3 clip on sides and a rod that held a shower curtain - this connected to a hot and cold tap under the van behind the back wheels - again, all factory fitted. Unfortunalty the shower ended up being thrown out some years back as it was in a shed that was disposed of. Aparently this van had pretty much every extra fitted to it - except the 12 volt wiring, when it was ordered. To say I'm pretty happy is an understatement.
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Post by snoops on Nov 19, 2017 14:58:46 GMT 10
Looking towards the bedroom - the wardrobe and dresser area is awesome and has lighting above the mirror - which opens out revealing more cupboard space behind it for makeup, etc - SWMBO should like that. IMG_1061 by Gavin Gregory, on Flickr IMG_1060 by Gavin Gregory, on Flickr So, it's pretty safe to say I'll be doing very little to the looks and functionality of this van inside. It is all 240 volt - no 12 volt electrics were specified in the build as it was used down on the owners property in Phillip Island for School holidays and they had power and water there. I'll be transferring my inverter into this and a new battery and solar setup - around 400 watts of solar and 300 to 400Ah of batteries if I have the weight to spare - which is a complete unknown at the moment, but as I'll get to nominate the GTM when I register it, you can bet I'll add a couple of hundred KG to the figure - if the axles and wheel bearing are up for it - I still haven't looked at all that yet. You should see more updates in a week or so.
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Post by snoops on Nov 20, 2017 5:52:51 GMT 10
Just did some googling and found that a 40mm square axle with Holden bearings is good for 1000KG, so that's fine for anticipated loading. Will run the van over a weighbridge when I move it to see where it is at now but I anticipate somewhere around 1,600KG for a van this size - does that sound about right?
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Post by Mustang on Nov 20, 2017 7:31:04 GMT 10
Just did some googling and found that a 40mm square axle with Holden bearings is good for 1000KG, so that's fine for anticipated loading. Will run the van over a weighbridge when I move it to see where it is at now but I anticipate somewhere around 1,600KG for a van this size - does that sound about right? We have a 43mm square solid axle with Holden LM bearings . Our engineer said they were good for 1000kg. Fully laden we went 1360kg for 17' 6", then we took out the annex & other stuff, just wanted to see what it would go all up. 4000km travelled without any issues, just pay the extra for a top bearing (if needed) I wonder why they left the butt hinges exposed, in stead of turning them under & fixing them from view? Condition is amazing, and that upholstery, drooling!!!!! Brent
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Post by snoops on Nov 20, 2017 8:19:44 GMT 10
Thanks - I'm not too concerned now regarding the axles after checking the size and bearing type, but it's nice to know I can tell VicRoads the GTM is 2,000Kg. That will give me plenty of room to play with although I want to keep it as light as possible - I don't want to time any more than I have to. Yeah, aren't those patterns crazy! Can't get fabric like that any more.
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Post by 78466noM on Nov 20, 2017 9:27:19 GMT 10
Well snoops looks like you have a van that most of what you have to do will be the easy mechanical work with a bit of cleaning inside
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Post by snoops on Nov 20, 2017 10:05:05 GMT 10
Yes, very fortunate and happy to be able to preserve this van for the future. After initial clean up and use, only other plans are the ensuite and external stuff - it needs a full repaint - I'll be spraying this one and doing it with automotive paint for the best finish I can get along with new acrylic window panels - the wrap around corner bits - as these have deteriorated in the sun, but that's pretty much it. Like my current van I'll be doing this while enjoying using it - I'll hopefully be out in this one by Christmas and by our big trip in March we do every year hopefully have the ensuite complete, but some of these high dollar things will only happen once I sell the Franklin so that is s determining factor in how quickly things get done.
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Post by mickmarsh on Nov 20, 2017 13:27:13 GMT 10
Sniff.... I'm so sorry to see my baby, my treasure go.
Oh, well. C'est la vie.
Yep, it's a real time capsule.
Oh, I should mention, years ago, this van was going to be scrapped. The people managing the estate had no idea of it's value and thought it was worthless scrap until I showed interest. I didn't really want it but I thought it was too good to be scrapped, so they accepted my offer. They, and I, are very happy it's going to be used and treasured.
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Post by snoops on Nov 20, 2017 16:14:34 GMT 10
I wonder why they left the butt hinges exposed, in stead of turning them under & fixing them from view? Condition is amazing, and that upholstery, drooling!!!!! Brent Good point - hadn't noticed until I re read your post - there's no reason they couldn't have folded them under so I can only assume 1 or 2 things - it was deliberate as a design statement - or they fucked up... 😆
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Post by Mustang on Nov 22, 2017 7:27:40 GMT 10
Yes, very fortunate and happy to be able to preserve this van for the future. After initial clean up and use, only other plans are the ensuite and external stuff - it needs a full repaint - I'll be spraying this one and doing it with automotive paint for the best finish I can get along with new acrylic window panels - the wrap around corner bits - as these have deteriorated in the sun, but that's pretty much it. Like my current van I'll be doing this while enjoying using it - I'll hopefully be out in this one by Christmas and by our big trip in March we do every year hopefully have the ensuite complete, but some of these high dollar things will only happen once I sell the Franklin so that is s determining factor in how quickly things get done. You will be amazed at the weight savings by using acrylic instead of glass for this amount of windows, also the winders (windouts 1970?) work so easily.
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Post by snoops on Nov 22, 2017 10:20:44 GMT 10
Pre winders - they have the arms with the locknuts that open out. The flyscreens have to be opened first on a top mounted hinge to do this. The other thing about going to acrylic is that I'll get a tinted version - not sure if it will keep the van any cooler, but it looks heaps better.
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Post by Mustang on Nov 23, 2017 9:15:35 GMT 10
IF the Propert egg beater ever goes up for sale "I would love it" My mum had one all her married life but it wasn't with her stuff when she passed, it certainly beat up a few meringues.
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Post by snoops on Nov 23, 2017 16:54:44 GMT 10
I’ll keep that in mind but chances are it will live a long and happy life in the van . 😊
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Post by atefooterz on Nov 23, 2017 20:59:47 GMT 10
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