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Post by atouchofglass on Jul 10, 2009 6:17:33 GMT 10
Hi Everyone
Just a bit of thinking out loud for the moment
Who thinks it would be a good idea to make up classic caravan stickers to advertise us?
The reason I ask is cause recently I received my Vintage Caravan sticker and thought that Classic Caravans as a website is in fact harder to find
So a bit of advertising wouldn't go astray
Thoughts?
Colours? What would be written on it? Motto/Theme? Photos or drawing of van or not?
Any other ideas?
Atog
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2009 10:31:04 GMT 10
Something like this? Peter
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Post by murray on Jul 10, 2009 11:01:05 GMT 10
Atog I don't mean to self promote but if you send me a personal email I can send a few 1960s "girlie' souvenir decals which could be used around the sticker. You will have a better chance of posting on the website Cheers
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Post by millard1399 on Jul 10, 2009 11:34:52 GMT 10
Atog, I think stickers for the Classic vans is a great idea! Something like the sticker peter has shown above would be quite suitable. The only addition I would make is to show the time period that Classic vans relate to, ie. 1970 -1979, on the sticker as well. After first reading your post just now atog, I jumped into Google and searched for Classic Caravans. It seems a Jayco dealership up your way at Townsville has cornered the term Classic Caravans. Even the Introduction in the Vintage Caravan website, which came up second in the Google search, refers to the Vintage site as "Australia's classic caravan website" (this Intro was done looooong before the idea of the Classic forum was born). Whichever way we go with the sticker idea, we have a tough road ahead to steer people towards this particular forum. I don't think anybody searching the internet for information about their old caravan would use the words "Classic caravan" in the search field. And the proboards name for our forum (http://ditzygypsy.proboards.com) is not something that is readily committed to memory. Each sticker might need to come with a little notepad and pencil so that when people read the sticker they can jot down the website name and take the notepaper away with them (only partly kidding! ) Somehow or other it would be good to understand how the Google search system works, so that any search for the word caravan, old caravan, 1974 caravan, etc, would highlight this forum early in the search results. I think it would also be worthwhile talking with Mark T about getting the link to the Classic forum put on the home page of the Vintage Caravans website. I'll follow that one up myself. Good subject...good discussion...let's do something!! ;D ;D ;D cheers, Al.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2009 14:21:53 GMT 10
Some thing like this millard1399. Peter
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2009 19:38:14 GMT 10
Hi Guys, Listen I dont know how this works or anything, but maybe we need to set up a website and have this forum attached to it, because a website will come up on a search but a forum doesn't really jump out at the uninitiated. Sorry if I'm standing on any toes (purely unintentional) but maybe that might work or a series of links on various sites
kiwicarl
plus a website we can have heaps of members photo's amd guests but again is this very difficult to achieve or hard to manage I'm not sure
Correct me if I'm wrong or misinformed
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Post by millard1399 on Jul 10, 2009 20:57:28 GMT 10
Hi Kiwicarl, this forum is already attached to a website...the Vintage Caravans website. The Classic forum is a subset of the Vintage forum. One of the big problems is that even the Vintage website doesn't come up on search results often. I spent a bit of time today mucking around with Google, and most search results for "Classic caravans" are referring to the Vintage era. It seems people in general think of the word Classic in relation to cars, so any old cars from 30, 40, 50 years ago are considered Classics. Therefore any van from 30, 40, 50 years ago are also thought of by most people as "Classics". It'll be a hard job to convert people's thinking that we only consider vans from 1970 - 1979 to be Classic caravans. Peter, your second version is along the lines of what I was thinking. Here's a couple of attempts I made using my limited skills... ...and this second one drops the "http://" prefix off because that's pretty redundant these days and most (all??) web browsers will insert that automatically. It might make the internet address easier to remember... Hey, atog!...how about you make something up in rosewood! ;D ;D ;D cheers, Al.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2009 21:26:43 GMT 10
Gidday al,
Ok mate yep sorry bout that mate got it now hmmmmm
Tough one that
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Post by atouchofglass on Jul 11, 2009 5:58:47 GMT 10
Hi Gents
Well my thoughts are these Photo or drawing of caravan Should be an aluminium van as they are the dominate species of the 70's Not sure on the cost difference of a photo vs a drawing
Prefer no car or half a tow car in the photo.... Mostly cause person viewing the photo could imagine his car towing the van
Peter's font for the writing is good The years of Classic Caravans is subtle but gets the message across
Dropping the Http/ is a good idea No one seems to use the WWW bit much either
It should be a longish sticker as opposed to a rectangular/squarish Don't know about you blokes but there can be a heck of a lot of stickers on the back window of your car and caravan after a trip and it gets a bit much eventually
Anyway that's my two cents worth
Next question is does anyone know of a good printer/sticker maker?
Cheers Atog
PS Hey Al I'll keep the rosewood idea in the background..... Hmmm could carve it out of a solid tree stump and use it on the rear bumper like a tyre ..... Food for thought ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2009 11:55:26 GMT 10
Next question is does anyone know of a good printer/sticker maker? Cheers Atog You might try Lance on the caravanersforum.com
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2009 21:25:54 GMT 10
What about renaming it for search purposes to something like CARAVAN CLASSISCS 70-79? or similar? That way the search engine might pick it up easier
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2009 9:50:00 GMT 10
Hi guys, Google search ranking is an elusive game. However, rest assured forums receive a boost over web pages. The concept is that what people are currently thinking and saying is most relevant. What gives the most boost in the rankings is many sites with links pointing to the desired site. And of course traffic. This site does have a horrible name ... unfortunately. It logically should have been named 'classiccaravans'. But that's history and when I last researched it was difficult/impossible to import a free Proboards forum to something else or change it's name. I'm guessing that a 'classic caravans' domain name could be purchased to point to this forum? However I'm no expert here. I've had a muck about in the past and reserved 'classic caravans' as a Proboards forum name just in case. It's locked so it cannot be used. classiccaravans.proboards.com/I've added Peters nice logo as the banner image to jazz it up a bit. We should add it to this site to give it a tad more flair. For the admin it is: Enter admin area Customise your forum -> Skins/Forum colours -> Modify Skin -> default -> continue Then modify the 'logo url' image location: I loaded Peters at: img268.imageshack.us/img268/9540/classic01.jpgIn keeping with the theme we really need pictures/images/graphics of a classic van and a classic tug. I do love this logo, useful for the vintage guys .... but back to the forum topic. Good idea aToG
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Post by millard1399 on Jul 12, 2009 14:56:46 GMT 10
Hi wahroonga...good to hear from you again . I've checked my admin functions, and we moderators don't have access to the "customize your forum" section. I don't know that we really have an active Admin anymore. My understanding is that "God" (Jenny) has dropped out of the scene, and Mark T, who owns the Vintage website, doesn't have much to do with our forum. We can contact him if we need any help, but by and large we are left to fend for ourselves pretty much. I wonder if I should ask him for extra powers for atog and myself to become forum administators?? I also wonder whether we couldn't "piggy back" on the back of the Vintage forum stickers, and get the same printer to do a deal for us. If we kept the Classic sticker to something similar to the Vintage one, then maybe the cost wouldn't be that much?? Atog, are you able to post a photo of what the Vintage sticker looks like? Maybe in this day and age you can get some special vinyl sticky paper that will go into a computer printer, and we can make our own on a computer?? Does anybody have any knowledge about whether this is a possibility? cheers, Al. [...who is sounding like a 2-year old asking Daddy, "Why...?"]
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2009 17:02:30 GMT 10
millard1399 In answer to your question here is a photo of the vintage sticker, and yes photo printer paper with stick on backing can be purchased to print on home printers. Hopefully I am not stepping on any ones toe's by mentioning any of this. Peter
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2009 17:10:04 GMT 10
.... I wonder if I should ask him for extra powers for atog and myself to become forum administators?? Hi Al, I would try to organise Admin powers for yourself and aToG asap. That's ASAP, or sooner. A forum with no Admin powers will be doomed to a rocky road indeed as the membership grows. For a wonderful community forum like this, it is sound to appoint a couple of Admins ..... and there always needs to be a succession plan in place. The alternatives don't bear thinking about ... try to close the forum (impossible without admin powers), start afresh etc etc.
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Post by kiwijim on Jul 12, 2009 18:02:40 GMT 10
G'day All, I have been reading all the comments regarding a C.C. Sticker, I just wonder what is involved in creating a New ( CLASSIC CARAVANER'S) web site, The website named below, may offer someone (with plenty of time on their hands) some ideas to create a brand new Site with a distinctive name....... www.4CreatingaWebsite.comkiwijim
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Post by atouchofglass on Jul 12, 2009 18:24:17 GMT 10
Hi guys Had thought about another website for Classic Caravans but Decided I didn't have the time to pursue it properly
Wasn't too sure how it would be taken if a new entity was created ...... Seems some are in favour
Always thought ditzygypsy was a bit ...... well..... not related to caravans except possibly the gypsy bit
If someone wants to create a new site and run it .... I'll give you a hand where possible Same as I have on this site Remember I'm a ring-in at best..... Atogs 68 Olympic !!!!!
Atog
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Post by atouchofglass on Jul 12, 2009 18:56:00 GMT 10
Hi All I don't know that we really have an active Admin anymore. My understanding is that "God" (Jenny) has dropped out of the scene, and Mark T, who owns the Vintage website, doesn't have much to do with our forum. We can contact him if we need any help, but by and large we are left to fend for ourselves pretty much. I wonder if I should ask him for extra powers for atog and myself to become forum administators?? I also wonder whether we couldn't "piggy back" on the back of the Vintage forum stickers, and get the same printer to do a deal for us. If we kept the Classic sticker to something similar to the Vintage one, then maybe the cost wouldn't be that much?? Atog, are you able to post a photo of what the Vintage sticker looks like? Maybe in this day and age you can get some special vinyl sticky paper that will go into a computer printer, and we can make our own on a computer?? Does anybody have any knowledge about whether this is a possibility? cheers, Al. [...who is sounding like a 2-year old asking Daddy, "Why...?"] Boy have I opened a can of worms or what OK here it is in a nutshell Al and I were asked to moderate this forum as Ditzy had stopped being active In reality she was asked to make this forum and it wasn't supported When Al and I came onboard there were about 40 members and few were active We have a band of brothers That regularly post and keep the forum interesting To all those I say a genuine "thank you" I don't know about Al but I have not done this before It has been and is a great experience ... not that hard as you lot are easy to get on with ;D ;D ;D It also gives me an outlet for my big mouth Having said all that A dedicated website and forum for classic caravans is a truly needed idea Whoever does create such a website has my support I will still moderate here as it is a responsibility I take seriously NowAs far as stickers go..... cause that is what this thread was all about We can ask Mark T who he uses and follow suit or Find a new printer and have them done there .... or As was suggested Print our own individual stickers The only problem with the last one is they would all be different My thought is there will be a limited run anyway.... so ..... Why not have one of our members print them up and we pay that member for his/her time and materials Who would want stickers? I'll take two as a start Cheers Atouchofglass
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Post by kiwijim on Jul 12, 2009 19:29:30 GMT 10
G'day Atog & All, I think before we start placing orders, there should be one and only sticker depicting what the majority of members decide on, My suggestion is that a competition should be run with enough time to allow every-one to put forward their own design, then may-be a vote be taken as to the most popular design, the winning design could then be priced at a Printing Co. Any ideas anyone..... P.S. I'll take 4 of the winning sticker. kiwijim
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Post by atouchofglass on Jul 13, 2009 5:44:30 GMT 10
Hey Jim and Everyone Perhaps I was a little vague What I was looking for was an expression of interest In other words IF the stickers were produced what would we be looking at number wise
For all we know there may be less than 30 stickers needed That would bring us to a real number and understanding of how viable it would be to take it to a commercial printer or do it on a home printer
Cheers Atog
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Post by mike on Jul 13, 2009 16:17:22 GMT 10
Hey, hey... I wonder what the purpose of a sticker is? I think it would be: to attract new contributors (NOT 'members') to this website. There is a lot of 'loose mumbling' about changing the name of the website. So it seems like discussion about 'stickers' is ... 'cart before the horse'... maybe??? ...unless we stick with this website title. Websites cost. At the bottom of this page is "This Board Hosted For Free By Proboards". They pay, but they are assisted by some revenue from Google Ads which has been linked to this site, targetting key words we type with ads to match. Our website is 'ditzygypsy.proboards.com', and it seems like 'caravanclassics.proboards.com' might be a possible alternative name to arrange with proboards. Once the website name is settled on, being cheap, I'll print the sticker that is placed on screen by one of you inventive/designer types out there, or ... ok I'll take two!! Cheers Mike ;D ;D ;D
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Post by atouchofglass on Jul 13, 2009 16:27:45 GMT 10
Lets bring this back on track
While a web name change is possible it is a longer solution
The original question was about stickers
I like peter's idea and font in reply 4 Except with an aluminium van in the picture
Who likes that idea?
Cheers Atog
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2009 19:57:00 GMT 10
Two more stickers with cladding Vans. Peter
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Post by millard1399 on Jul 13, 2009 19:58:07 GMT 10
I'll vote for Peter's version ;D ;D with a Viscount van on it. Viscount were the No.1 seller all through the 70s so I reckon they deserve the honour.
cheers, Al.
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Post by atouchofglass on Jul 13, 2009 21:09:55 GMT 10
Hey Everyone Gotta agree Peter's version with the 18ft Viscount...... Perhaps with a less modern car ....... perhaps.... maybe..... ;D ;D ;D Atog
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