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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 21:50:20 GMT 10
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Post by atefooterz on Aug 9, 2015 23:46:19 GMT 10
Heya, i was going to quote a Mod about discussion about prices, so you do not fall into the trap some of us did earlier, but it seems a big clean up has removed the reasons etc. (removed link to a closed group) This van certainly looks tidy and the small ones are fairly rare compared to the larger ones on offer, in relation to frequency. If i was in South Aus i would check it out just to compare reality with the pics.  |
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Post by Mustang on Aug 10, 2015 9:02:37 GMT 10
Looks like a barn find? Very neat.
There seems to be some good old vans coming from this drier climate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 11:03:59 GMT 10
Heya, i was going to quote a Mod about discussion about prices, so you do not fall into the trap some of us did earlier, but it seems a big clean up has removed the reasons etc. This van certainly looks tidy and the small ones are fairly rare compared to the larger ones on offer, in relation to frequency. If i was in South Aus i would check it out just to compare reality with the pics. Yes, I was a bit uncertain (and anxious!) about the $$$ ruling (which I did see), but… my reading was that this section discussing vans for sale was a bit more flexible, if there was context to justify it? I was just hoping for some knowledgable guidance about the general ball-park, not a specific number or a pseudo-valuation. Sincere apologies to all if that's in breach of the rules  In terms of general advice: anything that's worth a close suspicious look with vans of this vintage? Weak spots or common issues? Most of my research has been targeted towards vintage vans rather than classic to be honest, but this poor little Franklin has been relisted twice now, and it's kind of growing on me… and may be more practical. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 14:01:05 GMT 10
Hi J.A.A What a caravan is worth is a personal choice, what you may think is treasure I may think is rubbish..  To clarify the "money" rule, we are happy for anyone to sell there classic caravan here or parts for a classic van and we're happy to see link/s to other sites that are selling relative classic parts/caravans etc. What we cannot have is members or guests commenting on prices or values. Because if your are selling an item you want to talk that item up so as to get the best price and the opposite is true with buying - you want the cheapest price. Just recently an item on another site was offered for sale, then either someone told the seller or the seller found out some information, and he placed a second ad for the item with (I think) 2 extra words added to the title plus changed a "date" and the price of the item went up !!! How do you know if a members advise here is on the up ? They could be the seller or maybe they want to buy the item  No one knows. Or you could be the seller of that van or a relative and trying to drive interest/sale... again no one knows. This is what I did before I bought my caravan, I researched the web and forums and 100's of website that sell stuff and I worked out a range of what I believe was the value of the van/s I was interested in. I then started going around and looking at what was in my price range and about 5 weeks later I ended up with a van. I saw vans that had no gas/rego etc etc and they wanted more then I wanted to spend and recently I met a chap who has a van that is in very good nic and he wants less then what I paid for mine....! It is up to you to gauge what you believe something is worth. I hope this clear this "issue" up for you. Lockyer |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 14:57:14 GMT 10
Well, thanks for clearing that up.
Any advice on things to look for/question?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 15:15:17 GMT 10
I had a look at that ad and the first thing that got my attention was the words "water damage/d" and "no" This could and may very likely be true, it would be the same as me saying my 1963 ford whatever has no oil leaks - never has !But what I'm not saying is I have never put oil in the motor !!! See what I'm getting at.... I think if you have a look in the tech section and read up on the sealants etc and there given live frames, you will find out that most sealants used back then have a life of 5-10 years.
So yes there most likely is no water damage but that doesn't mean it will not leak in the next down pour if out in the open.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 15:33:16 GMT 10
That ad has been written by a true salesman I love the term "Original" - lets go back to my old ford whatever...I will sell you the original water pump off the motor...you need one to fix yours ?? I said original ! I didn't say working...so I made so $$$ and you got a desk ornament. You need to check that everything on that caravan is in good working order, and if you cannot see it with your own 2 eye's then start pricing up replacement parts, then you can say your up for the price of the van + new fridge or brakes etc |
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Post by doublechevron on Aug 10, 2015 15:45:06 GMT 10
buy on condition. If I was in the market for a 'van of that type and size, I'd already be looking at that one. The condition appears to be exceptional. You absolutely MUST look at them first though. Photos can hide all sort of damage. If that one really has no water damage it is truly a very unique survivor. If you buy a 'van of htis age. Plan on renewing EVERY bit of sealant on the 'van. Once done it'll give you many years of enjoyment. Take pictures of your resealing job so if you ever sell it you can prove it's been resealed properly. It will make it much easier to sell.
I'm working my way through resealing on old 'van at the moment. The reason it's never done right, is it's a HUGE job. It's not expensive, not difficult. Just massively time consuming. ( given the time involved it will costs more than the caravans value to get done professionally).
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Post by Mustang on Aug 11, 2015 8:43:13 GMT 10
Indeed an attractive advert, along with those words...never..
From reports of this forum & the Vintage, there are no free lunches anymore, the vans are simply too old, to be that good at the stated figure.
As stated here it may be dry now but that next shower may deluge the interior if its been open & dry in a shed for years.
Not saying this is not a great head start, you need to board a plane & check it out, but take note of future repairs, they all need them unless they have been TOTALLY renovated, then I would suggest the advertised would be at least double if not triple the asking.
Also stated here...if I was in Adelaide I would have looked at it by now!!!!!
Good Luck with your search, its fun.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 18:34:32 GMT 10
I'm in Adelaide, so that makes it a bit simpler And it looks from the photos to be parked outside, so this rain we've been having lately might be revealing. The seller is "not on eBay much and works weekends", so… that may be a factor in the relistings. Trying to arrange an inspection. Edit: So, I talked to the seller, and she "works weekends" because she's in real estate! Eek! An experienced sales person! Story is she's selling it for her adult daughter who bought it from its original owner fairly recently, but now has nowhere to store it. The seller and her husband have 2 vintage vans and one classic of their own (!), and it's the husband who does the maintenance on their vans and who's given this one the once-over and pronounced it leak-free. She says she's really surprised it wasn't snapped up as soon as they first listed it. But any sensible seller would say that, eh? All in all… I'm going to take extra eyeballs with me to give it a very thorough looking at. Thanks for the advice so far. Appreciate it. |
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Post by Mustang on Aug 13, 2015 7:42:24 GMT 10
Ive been back to this ad more than once, perhaps they still occur, & we have become cynical of genuine sellers? As we said in the earlier replies they all need work, but if this one is as good as the ad, then a head start is more than welcome. Take folding stuff with you, it works wonders. Now we can't wait the outcome  Good Luck |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 8:50:05 GMT 10
Good Luck J.A.A I hope you find your new adventure, and remember, there isn't anything that cannot be fixed.. |
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Post by pisces51 on Aug 13, 2015 18:33:37 GMT 10
G'day justanotheramy, In all the years I've been associated with this forum, there are only a couple of vans that stood out in condition when people posted photos. Back in 2012, we had a lady from Canberra join, and she had just bought a 1975 Franklin Hunter from a caravan dealer in Melbourne. She's no longer a member of the forum, but you can still read her story in her thread: 1975 Franklin Hunter 12ft - W8372Scroll down the first page to see the photos, and see if you agree with this van being a very, very fine example of a Franklin Hunter. If the one you are looking at is anywhere near as good as this one, I'd be snapping it up very quickly. In case anybody is interested, the other van that sticks in my memory for being in "mint condition" is the 1971 Viscount Royal that came on the forum back in 2010: 1971 Viscount Royal 15ft 5095AScroll down to the 7th post to see all the photos of this van. Now, THAT'S a time capsule!  cheers, Al. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2015 22:26:36 GMT 10
Ooooh, that 1975 Hunter was pristine!
Don't think this one is quite that good… but same fabric patterns and everything, so very interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2015 17:17:55 GMT 10
Ah, you snooze you lose.
Buyer flying in from Melbourne, I'm told.
Anyone we know…?
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Post by Mustang on Aug 15, 2015 8:40:51 GMT 10
Ah, you snooze you lose. Buyer flying in from Melbourne, I'm told. Anyone we know…? Always to ask for first refusal on the sale, especially if you have to travel some distance, could be the old trick to hasten the sale, I would expect you have made a prior appointment to view? |
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Post by Mustang on Aug 22, 2015 7:08:40 GMT 10
Ah, you snooze you lose. Buyer flying in from Melbourne, I'm told. Anyone we know…? So.. do we have a happy result? |
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To clarify the "money" rule, we are happy for anyone to sell there classic caravan here or parts for a classic van and we're happy to see link/s to other sites that are selling relative classic parts/caravans etc. What we cannot have is members or guests commenting on prices or values. Because if your are selling an item you want to talk that item up so as to get the best price and the opposite is true with buying - you want the cheapest price. Just recently an item on another site was offered for sale, then either someone told the seller or the seller found out some information, and he placed a second ad for the item with (I think) 2 extra words added to the title plus changed a "date" and the price of the item went up !!!
No one knows. Or you could be the seller of that van or a relative and trying to drive interest/sale... 
