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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 21:10:44 GMT 10
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Post by youngdazza on Feb 12, 2015 21:42:53 GMT 10
G'day Chuck and welcome to the forum.
Thanks for posting the photos! It reminds me very much of my first caravan which was a 15' Viscount Pop-top of the same vintage, but a different layout to yours I expect (judging by the windows). Mine was really quite sturdy and lasted us 10 years with very few problems. So I'm definitely a fan of these vans!
What are your plans for the van? By the sound of it youre looking to totally gut and redo the internals? If so keep in mind that when they build these vans they use very thin wooden frames and plenty of 3mm ply to keep it light. If you redo the interior keep an eye on the weight so that you dont go over the limits of your axle, tyres etc.
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Post by pisces51 on Feb 12, 2015 22:09:05 GMT 10
G'day Chuck, Way back in 2007, not long after this forum started, there was a fella who did a similar thing with the paintwork plan that you're thinking of, that is, to strip the top half back to plain silver, and repaint just the bottom half. It was a Millard poptop, and you can see the one and only photo in the following thread... Mid 70's Millard Pop-Topcheers, Al. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2015 16:09:06 GMT 10
Looks like the fun has begun, Chuck. Welcome also, looks like the pop top skirt has been replace recently.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2015 22:37:43 GMT 10
G'day Chuck and welcome to the forum. Thanks for posting the photos! It reminds me very much of my first caravan which was a 15' Viscount Pop-top of the same vintage, but a different layout to yours I expect (judging by the windows). Mine was really quite sturdy and lasted us 10 years with very few problems. So I'm definitely a fan of these vans! What are your plans for the van? By the sound of it youre looking to totally gut and redo the internals? If so keep in mind that when they build these vans they use very thin wooden frames and plenty of 3mm ply to keep it light. If you redo the interior keep an eye on the weight so that you dont go over the limits of your axle, tyres etc. Cheers young_dazza Thanks mate the plan for the interior is to replace the beds with a fold up double bed / lounge on the rear wall and replace the bench top with a new one. Lay a new vinyl floor and paint the inside to hide the wood laminate. I do have some water damage that needs some attention that ill need some advice on. ill post pics tomorrow. In terms of the chassis and wheels I'm planing on putting in a second chassis and putting in a 2000kg independent suspension. Similar to this www.exploroz.com/Forum/Topic/69752/caravan_chassis_upgrade.aspxAlso planing on putting in a split system if anyone has any advice on installation that would be good. Oh and a flip down roof mount for my 47 inch tv .. yes i know. Im 25 i need these things . I'm hoping to get it off road capable as i can. Chuck |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2015 22:40:56 GMT 10
Looks like the fun has begun, Chuck. Welcome also, looks like the pop top skirt has been replace recently. cheers Yeah mate it looks non factory. poorly installed and has caused leaks inside each corner under the base of the skirt. Chuck |
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Post by youngdazza on Feb 14, 2015 7:47:18 GMT 10
It'll be great when its finished. Are you going to go dual axle? I think single axles usually only go up to 1700kg or so (due to max ratings of the axles, tyres etc) Cheers |
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Post by atefooterz on Feb 14, 2015 10:55:18 GMT 10
G'day Chuck and welcome to the forum. Thanks for posting the photos! It reminds me very much of my first caravan which was a 15' Viscount Pop-top of the same vintage, but a different layout to yours I expect (judging by the windows). Mine was really quite sturdy and lasted us 10 years with very few problems. So I'm definitely a fan of these vans! What are your plans for the van? By the sound of it youre looking to totally gut and redo the internals? If so keep in mind that when they build these vans they use very thin wooden frames and plenty of 3mm ply to keep it light. If you redo the interior keep an eye on the weight so that you dont go over the limits of your axle, tyres etc. Cheers young_dazza Thanks mate the plan for the interior is to replace the beds with a fold up double bed / lounge on the rear wall and replace the bench top with a new one. Lay a new vinyl floor and paint the inside to hide the wood laminate. I do have some water damage that needs some attention that ill need some advice on. ill post pics tomorrow. In terms of the chassis and wheels I'm planing on putting in a second chassis and putting in a 2000kg independent suspension. Similar to this www.exploroz.com/Forum/Topic/69752/caravan_chassis_upgrade.aspxAlso planing on putting in a split system if anyone has any advice on installation that would be good. Oh and a flip down roof mount for my 47 inch tv .. yes i know. Im 25 i need these things . I'm hoping to get it off road capable as i can. Chuck Thanks for that link Chuck. I am looking at a similar project, more On Road than 4wd though, but will be using the classic van as a mold only then laying up inside the shell, too much drama time & weight, to get my Arrow to what i want in a live in modern- classic looking van. I started a basic thread but will go hall of fame when the serious stuff starts.  Ate |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 20:22:45 GMT 10
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 20:28:52 GMT 10
So i'm assuming the best way to deal with removing these is to drill out the rivets remove and replace the rivets to fill the holes?  Next job after removing most of the paint is to remove the pop top and axles. Drop down on to some castor wheels to roll into the garage  Bought some new lights today from bunnings. Not bad for $12  I want to have it ready for paint by next weekend. that means removing all moldings, windows and door
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Post by Mustang on Feb 15, 2015 6:51:16 GMT 10
So i'm assuming the best way to deal with removing these is to drill out the rivets remove and replace the rivets to fill the holes? Next job after removing most of the paint is to remove the pop top and axles. Drop down on to some castor wheels to roll into the garage Bought some new lights today from bunnings. Not bad for $12 I want to have it ready for paint by next weekend. that means removing all moldings, windows and door Hi Chuck, Great reno you have going, re the drop nose pins. As you have yet to paint? do you want the look of a hole filling rivet. I'm drilling mine out & replacing with body filler. Takes a few applications to obtain that feather edge, but I'm sure the look will be more pleasing, mind you I have lots of rivets, that need removing. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 15:09:20 GMT 10
Lunchtime update! Most of the paint on one side is removed!. Short of getting a bit of steel wool soaked in paint stripper into my eye and running around like a moron in the front yard because of said pain its going well.  re the drop nose pins. As you have yet to paint? do you want the look of a hole filling rivet. I'm drilling mine out & replacing with body filler. Mustang - Ive decided to rivet not bog as it is going to be given a shake around off road and the last thing i want is bog falling out    Ive removed the old antenna thingo and was glad to find a small hole not a cavity removed from the cladding   Ive discovered that paint stripper basically dissolves silicon in its tracks and makes it very easy to remove. Internal Water Damage. As you can see in all 4 corners i have some water damage its all dry now and has no rot so my plan was to cover it and paint over. Any objections / better ideas?      ^ that wasn't as bad until i poked a screwdriver into it half a dozen times. the others are solid to the "poke"   this doesn't look right are all pop top skirts installed like this?  Trying to remove the door trim i broke it. Bugger  Anyone know where i can get replacement latches for the front window? Caravan plus dont seem to have them i might have to try camec direct   Bit the bullet and bought the replacement fridge.  only draws 160w at 240v so can be easy run off a inverter later on. Thats all for now back to it after the traditional lunch at bunnings Chuck |
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Post by pisces51 on Feb 15, 2015 16:08:54 GMT 10
G'day Chuck, Could you adapt these ones from CaravansPlus to suit?? - Security Catch, Suit Protector Shade, 2 PartAlso, No, and I hope that wasn't done by a professional installer!  Looks like a dodgy amateur job to me! There would usually be an aluminium strip inside the hem at the top of the vinyl, and the screws are drilled through the vinyl and the ali strip into the timber. That "seals" and anchors the top of the skirt properly. cheers, Al. |
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Post by atefooterz on Feb 15, 2015 17:43:12 GMT 10
Just as important when any flex occurs is stopping the alloy from cracking around those old holes, due to flex & work hardening. Alloy rivets work well and is (was *) used on boat masts that flex more in an afternoon than a van would on the Birdsville track! * another awesome thing about carbon... just make a peanut butter consistency slurry of glass or carbon in epoxy & fill, sand paint & no one will ever know,especially the mast! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 20:27:06 GMT 10
G'day Chuck, Could you adapt these ones from CaravansPlus to suit?? - Security Catch, Suit Protector Shade, 2 ParAlso, No, and I hope that wasn't done by a professional installer! Looks like a dodgy amateur job to me! There would usually be an aluminium strip inside the hem at the top of the vinyl, and the screws are drilled through the vinyl and the ali strip into the timber. That "seals" and anchors the top of the skirt properly. cheers, Al. Hey... how come i didn't see them before. but that's the one I require. Cheers. In regards to the pop top i thought so. Any chance of a photo of someones that is done proper? Didn't get anything else done after lunch. Ended up getting a call from a mate that needed a hand getting his gearbox into his race car. Will see if i can get some more done during the week i was really hoping to have it ready for paint or very close to it by the end of the weekend. Oh well Oh and i've changed my mind about paint. I'm liking this ....  Chuck |
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Post by tedalley on Feb 17, 2015 20:34:21 GMT 10
Bit the bullet and bought the replacement fridge.
only draws 160w at 240v so can be easy run off a inverter later on.
Chuck HI.
I'm not sure if you realise that 160w on 12v = approx. 13amp draw x 24hrs.
It should be ok getting a charge from the tug while driving.
I hope you have some solar panels & a big battery while free-camping.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 18:52:59 GMT 10
Its only drawing 160w when running but i was planning on a 250w solar panel with 150-200amp storage so should be fine. Thanks for the info tho
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 22:48:20 GMT 10
Progress has been made! Getting closer to being ready for paint. Took it into work to make use of the forklifts Removing the roof to take off canvas     Removing old bumper.   Cutting off / removing all the gas and water lines and removing tank and brackets.   Half of the northwest's stones was in between the stone guard and the tank lol.    oops it still had water in it!  The other reason i took the roof off. Easy fridge removal as it doesn't fit out the door  Old stove removed.  Back home again to finish paint stripping  No wonder the lights barely work  Clean a frame read for sand blasting  Found the chassis number on the gas compliance plate  And on the interior panels ahaha  Its hopefully off to paint later this week Chuck |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 8:15:49 GMT 10
Looking great :-) :-)
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Post by snoops on Mar 4, 2015 21:17:03 GMT 10
Nice work. Bloody festoon globes are crap at the best of times, let alone when they gave been for a swim...
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Post by bobt on Mar 4, 2015 22:22:42 GMT 10
gidday chuckt Love the effort going into this. Me.. I like that rat rod look better.. no paint.  bobt |
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Post by Mustang on Mar 5, 2015 5:56:09 GMT 10
::)Wow what youth does!!! I feel slow. Forklift? now how will I be able to get that one over her?  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 11:39:08 GMT 10
::)Wow what youth does!!! I feel slow. Forklift? now how will I be able to get that one over her? Using a forklift is just not fair..half his luck. Whats the chances he might bring it to QLD for us
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Post by pisces51 on Mar 5, 2015 12:55:30 GMT 10
Yeah, I'm gonna join the "a forklift??!!" group. You CHEATER!!  Bloody heck! - I had to make my own timber jig, and use lots of ropes to get the poptop off the Millard I restored. These photos show how the poptop was lifted after it was restored, and then the van cabin was wheeled into position, and the roof lowered back onto the cabin...  I remember there was a lot of sweating going on during that part of the job!  cheers, Al. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 13:34:17 GMT 10
Its only drawing 160w when running but i was planning on a 250w solar panel with 150-200amp storage so should be fine. Thanks for the info tho I only just saw this and using a fridge that draws 160w(when running ?) you will need closer to 400 -500amp in battery storage. When a battery is rated to say 100amp you can only use if a wet deep cycle approx. 50% of it's rated power ie 50amps if you use more you start destroying the battery. AGM are a little better you can use 60-70% before causing damage.
Plus what you may not be taking into account is the power usage/loss running through the inverter.
Plus does that fridge have a soft start ? As most fridges will draw almost twice the amount of power when starting /cycling.
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Looks like a dodgy amateur job to me!
