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Post by kylarama on Apr 14, 2010 22:14:43 GMT 10
Speechless! Your workmanship and attention to detail is amazing. All ready for another 33+ years of service!
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Post by atouchofglass on Apr 15, 2010 5:11:31 GMT 10
Slick bit of work there Al
So now as my new saying says.....
Now it's finished... USE IT ;D ;D ;D ;D
Look forward to the travel threads
Cheers Atog
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Post by myblueheaven on Apr 25, 2010 0:49:12 GMT 10
Ha ha ha atog, you're a very funny man!... Would you take any notice of a bloke whose hand looks like this after he's used a sewing machine??... But, I'll see what I can do. cheers, Al. Hi Everyone...I'm new here, and I joined to learn more about how to do up a caravan that has been....'neglected'...lol....after searching the net for a site like this for literally hours, I finally found you guys...fascinating reading.......I've recently bought a Millard - hence the reason I finally gravitated to this thread...and I have to say.....I read almost to the end, with my other half, having a giggle, (with him looking terrified) and being absolutely awe inspired by the workmanship of your rebuild...and the absolute patience and skill...and then got to page 19, 2 shandy's later, and laughing ourselves silly that a sewing machine could wreak that much damage, in the hands of a man with a power saw.....lmao....I was literally in tears I laughed so much....no disrespect intended.... I have to tell you Millard....I admire your skill and determination immensely...You've inspired myself and the other half more than you know......I hope, as we start to take on the trials and tribulations of doing up a an older 70's caravan, that you might offer some advice...... The final product was positively inspiring to me....my other half however had a look on his face like someone had his 'dangly bits' in a bench vice .... "PLEASE...PLEASE....don't make me do that...no....no Please" ..........lmao........ Anyway, as a newbie.....I wanna give you a virtual round of applause from the gallery.... you're incredible...(stay away from sewing machines though)...lol ;D And you know something?...you need to document this rebuild...there's nothing similar I could find on the net....as far as instructions go...Millard...you're a legend....
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Post by atouchofglass on Apr 25, 2010 8:46:23 GMT 10
Greetings MBH Welcome to the forum ;D ;D ;D We pride ourselves here on not taking life too seriously. But enjoying the ride as well as the caravans. Yes Al is indeed a very talented gent...... Including a bit of artwork with a red texta ;D You will find everything you need to know about Millards is locked into his brain It just takes a little teasing to get it out ;D ;D ;D He still hasn't put up the thread on how to sew.... no pun intended. Waiting Al........ still waiting. Cheers Atouchtoocheeky
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Post by millard1399 on Apr 25, 2010 9:52:42 GMT 10
Hi myblueheaven, and a big welcome from me too! ;D My head is swelling from all the kind words you've written Anybody who can wade through the full 22 pages of this thread deserves a medal themselves! I agree with your other half. Better you should sit around a campfire burning $20 notes and whacking yourselves with a piece of 4 x 2 timber. You end up with the same result as a caravan restoration - no money and lots of headaches, but in a much shorter timeframe. Feel free to go to the "Hall Of Fame" section of this forum and start a new thread for your van. Then you can keep all the information about it in the one thread as you work through the repairs, etc. The members on this forum are only too happy to help with information as you work through the job. Look forward to seeing more of your Millard! ;D ;D cheers, Al. ------------------------------------ ps. atog - It'll be a couple of months before I can put something together about the upholstery repairs. We're going away in the van in a couple of weeks for a 2 - 3 week trip, so all the focus at the moment is on getting organised for that to happen.
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Post by tassietiger on Apr 25, 2010 12:06:33 GMT 10
Congratulations Al. I think this thread is the basis of a DIY manual. Just think of all the royalties Enjoy the trip away you've earned it ;D
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Post by myblueheaven on Apr 25, 2010 15:38:21 GMT 10
LOL.....thanks guys.....still laughing....just read your reply to the OH, and he reckons he'd rather have his finger nails ripped off than have to go through everything you went through lol.....He's gone to the shops to get as many twenty dollar notes as he can...
I don't have the Millard yet.....I am arranging to pick it up as it's at Tumut and we're on the NSW Sth coast...long drive....It's not a pop top... it's a caravan, 16ft, not exactly sure of the year, and neither is the owner as he bought it without it's rego papers......It looks to be a 1970's model and we're just hoping to god it's an aluminium frame not wood. Otherwise, I may not buy it given what you had to go through to rebuild a wood frame....ouch...
The seller assures me (as a tilt tray owner/trucker driver himself), that the undercarriage brakes etc are all ship shape, and sturdy, but then sellers can say anything can't they?....lol
We found your thread on how to inspect for damages very very helpful, and I agree with Tassietiger that this site would be an incredible resource for a 'DYI' book on the subject...yes I know it's traditionally called DIY, but we prefer DYI = Do Yourself In...!!!! lol.
The Guy says it has vacuum brakes, so I'm assuming given what I've read so far that it's pre 1980. I'll be asking this guy two questions tomorrow, and that is whether there are pop rivets in the caravan or screws....then I'll have some idea what kind of frame it has....The other question is whether he can go looking for a Chasis Number as I understand Millard numbered them?....
I haven't committed to buy it yet because we're still negotiating. The previous owners did a bit of their own DIY on the caravan which is serving to drive down the price so far. Basically, where the roof hatch is, the caravan apparently developed a leak, so the previous owners took off the hatch and covered the entire roof with a colourbond roller door and simply screwed it to the frame so that makes me think it's wood frame....hard to tell. They also lined the inside ceiling so I just don't know what's underneath it....the original cladding is still under the colourbond though
Long story short, I had two criterias for buying a caravan....that the undercarriage and structure is good, and that it had an aluminium frame...the interior we can sort out ourselves...... So, if it turns out to be aluminium frame, I'll consider buying it for the price, as we're currently at 600.00 and negotiating...Given that I wasn't aware of the colourbond having been screwed to the roof, I'm going to offer him 400.00...but if it's wood frame, I may give it a miss altogether.
I expect to do some work, after all, what can you expect for 500.00....if the structure is sound that's a big plus.... and as I've explained to the OH, if we remove the moulding to reseal it, we might as well remove the panels and respray them and at the same time, get the electrical wiring checked.....it will also give us an opportunity to insulate the walls before the panels go back on. Anyway....great site you have here....I'm sure I'm going to become a frequent visitor
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Post by millard1399 on Apr 25, 2010 19:59:38 GMT 10
G'day again, myblueheaven (...soon to be changed to mynightmare when the Millard arrives ) Yep, ask the seller what the chassis number is. It's on the drawbar, just next to the jockey wheel, and may be either welded numbers, or numbers stamped on an aluminium plate. For a full sized Millard, the chassis number should read Mxxxxx, the x's being numbers. Chassis numbers before approximately M14000 were built before 1970, and a chassis number of M50000 is from around 1975. Some very rough calculations I've done trying to match chassis numbers with years is as follows: 1970: M14000 to M21000 1971: M21001 to M28000 1972: M28001 to M35000 1973: M35001 to M42000 1974: M42001 to M49000 1975: M49001 to M56000 1976: M56001 to M63000 1977: M63001 to M70000 1978: M70001 to M77000 1979: M77001 to whenever Millard closed down that year. These ranges could be WAY off the mark, and are based on only a few chassis numbers collected so far. At this stage, they are only a rough guideline. Other significant changes to Millards through the 1970s were: 1. The four seasons starlight hatch introduced late 1974. 2. Louvre windows changed from 3 louvres to 2 louvres around 1975. 3. Galvanised chassis introduced in early 1977. 4. The Millard stickers above the front and rear windows changed at certain times. All Millards from the 1970s will have white painted cladding on the exterior, with a coloured stripe at window height. Millards from earlier than 1967 will have silver (plain) unpainted cladding with a painted stripe at window height. Any, or all, of the above information will help date your caravan, but the chassis number is by far the best piece of information to get. cheers, Al.
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Post by myblueheaven on Apr 25, 2010 22:04:12 GMT 10
OK, I couldn't see what kind of windows are on the front or back as the covers were down...but on the right side of the van, opposite to the door side, the windows I can see are not louvred, but one single pane that open outwards.....the colour is all white, no stripe, and from what I can understand, it had a hatch on top...not sure if it was a four seasons hatch of if there were different types prior to that type...but the whole reason it was covered on top with colourbond was to seal the hole where the vent once went.....so I'm assuming, unless roof vents were only brought in in 1974, that it must be post that date?....I'll ask the guy for a chasis number....
The OH reckons we should wait until we sell the house and buy one with all the bells and whistles....'chicken'....lol...I think he may have had nightmares last night after reading this thread....lol
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Post by kylarama on Apr 25, 2010 22:21:01 GMT 10
LOL.....thanks guys.....still laughing....just read your reply to the OH, and he reckons he'd rather have his finger nails ripped off than have to go through everything you went through lol.....He's gone to the shops to get as many twenty dollar notes as he can... I don't have the Millard yet.....I am arranging to pick it up as it's at Tumut and we're on the NSW Sth coast...long drive....It's not a pop top... it's a caravan, 16ft, not exactly sure of the year, and neither is the owner as he bought it without it's rego papers......It looks to be a 1970's model and we're just hoping to god it's an aluminium frame not wood. Otherwise, I may not buy it given what you had to go through to rebuild a wood frame....ouch... The seller assures me (as a tilt tray owner/trucker driver himself), that the undercarriage brakes etc are all ship shape, and sturdy, but then sellers can say anything can't they?....lol We found your thread on how to inspect for damages very very helpful, and I agree with Tassietiger that this site would be an incredible resource for a 'DYI' book on the subject...yes I know it's traditionally called DIY, but we prefer DYI = Do Yourself In...!!!! lol. The Guy says it has vacuum brakes, so I'm assuming given what I've read so far that it's pre 1980. I'll be asking this guy two questions tomorrow, and that is whether there are pop rivets in the caravan or screws....then I'll have some idea what kind of frame it has....The other question is whether he can go looking for a Chasis Number as I understand Millard numbered them?.... I haven't committed to buy it yet because we're still negotiating. The previous owners did a bit of their own DIY on the caravan which is serving to drive down the price so far. Basically, where the roof hatch is, the caravan apparently developed a leak, so the previous owners took off the hatch and covered the entire roof with a colourbond roller door and simply screwed it to the frame so that makes me think it's wood frame....hard to tell. They also lined the inside ceiling so I just don't know what's underneath it....the original cladding is still under the colourbond though Long story short, I had two criterias for buying a caravan....that the undercarriage and structure is good, and that it had an aluminium frame...the interior we can sort out ourselves...... So, if it turns out to be aluminium frame, I'll consider buying it for the price, as we're currently at 600.00 and negotiating...Given that I wasn't aware of the colourbond having been screwed to the roof, I'm going to offer him 400.00...but if it's wood frame, I may give it a miss altogether. I expect to do some work, after all, what can you expect for 500.00....if the structure is sound that's a big plus.... and as I've explained to the OH, if we remove the moulding to reseal it, we might as well remove the panels and respray them and at the same time, get the electrical wiring checked.....it will also give us an opportunity to insulate the walls before the panels go back on. Anyway....great site you have here....I'm sure I'm going to become a frequent visitor G'day and welcome. Your van sounds like it would be similar to mine, see here ditzygypsy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=photos&action=display&thread=520 The wall frames are aluminum, but the roof is timber frame. I would be a bit concerned about roller door cladding screwed on the roof. Either the roof was real bad or the bloke has just made alot of work out of what should have been an easy repair. All the Millard single axle vans from the 70's and early 80's I've seen have all had mechanical override brakes. Don't know is vacuum brakes were an option or have been fitted later, but others on this site have said they are a pain and are now illegal. $400 doesn't get you much these days, so it could be a great starting point if your a handy person. Good luck. Hey Al, going by your chassis numbering, mine would be a mid 74 build, not 76 as we thought. The fridge and gas bottle were both dated 76. Well technically now it's a 1976 model, cause thats what the new rego papers say now!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2010 22:24:23 GMT 10
Hi Al,
Absolutely Fantastic job on your van Mate,you should be very proud of yourself, it looks like its just come off the showroom floor.
I have kept an eye on this thread,and the amount of work you have done is Astronomical.
Regards. John
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Post by millard1399 on Apr 25, 2010 22:26:46 GMT 10
Oops, I've had to come back and modify this post. You blokes jumped in while I was typing and I just hit the Post button without realising you'd got in before me. kylarama...don't put any emphasis on my chassis numbers. Could be way out of whack. Gotta get more chassis numbers collected to say with any certainty. tassietiger and johnno02...thanks guys for your positive comments. It's been a long road to get to this point, but the satisfaction is enormous. The photos fudge the truth, because small photos aren't real clear in detail. The restoration is not perfect by any means, and if you look at the van close up you'll see a number of 'amateur' finishes. However, I think it was kylarama who talked about the "10 metre rule" in relation to a spray painting discussion we had on the forum a couple of months back. If the paint job looks ok from 10 metres away, then it's a good job. And I came to LOVE that rule. I applied it to everything in the final stages. It instantly exempted me from having to do a perfect job on everything. The van passes the 10 metre rule, but any closer and some things are and others are . myblueheaven...I've misled you with the bit about the hatches. All vans had hatches, but prior to 1974 they were a box-lid type that wound (or pushed) open and closed. The four seasons model was fixed in position and had flaps on all four sides that could be opened and closed independently of each other. All white and no stripe? Hmmm...can't say I've seen a Millard like that, so maybe this one has been repainted at some time? Will be interesting to see what the chassis number is. Tell OH...no pain, no gain. cheers, Al.
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Post by myblueheaven on Apr 25, 2010 23:37:16 GMT 10
I think after reading all of this, and taking into account the added bit that the seller didn't initially disclose i.e. the roller door, which was decidedly a weird thing to do, that I'll be giving this one a miss.....the OH has said emphatically, that it has to be aluminium framing because we don't have the skills to fix a wood framed caravan if it's a nightmare.....So....if you guys don't mind, I might just come along for the ride and learn more about caravans first before biting off more than I can chew....well more than the OH can chew...hehehehe.....he is relieved...
Is it worth aiming for a 1980's model and paying a few grand instead?...with any luck I may come across one that's been garaged all it's life. I live in a tourist region, you'd have to think there'd be someone selling a caravan around here.....
If I find various vans to consider and post a photo is it Ok to ask you guys and gals for advice ??....so far I've found this site a wealth of information already....it's a book begging to be published....especially this thread....Caravan superman.....lol
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Post by myblueheaven on Apr 25, 2010 23:44:43 GMT 10
Hi Kylarama...yes it's shaped like that but the windows don't seem to be double louvre....anyway as above, i think I might give it a miss and look for one that only needs interior work predominantly.....I only wish that we had the skills to do what Millard has done, but I can safely say and I've made new vinyl covers for each of my counter stools, without the kind of injury Millard sustained...lol....Next time I'd stick to power saws and outsource the upholstery....lol
Can I just ask you Millard...are you a carpenter by trade?
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Post by kylarama on Apr 26, 2010 8:41:15 GMT 10
Hi Kylarama...yes it's shaped like that but the windows don't seem to be double louvre....anyway as above, i think I might give it a miss and look for one that only needs interior work predominantly. Is it like this one? cgi.ebay.com.au/Caravan-in-good-condition-6-berth-16-ft-millards_W0QQitemZ320522612903QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Caravans_RVs?hash=item4aa0a2f0a7While $400 might sound cheap, a $3000 van might be cheaper in the long run as you might find yourself spending more than $3000 getting up to scratch. We got ours for nothing, but had to replace the drawbar, brakes, suspension, axle, wheels and lights just to get it roadworthy. If you can't do all that work yourself then you'll spend around 3-4000ish grand getting someone else to do it. Keep your eyes peeled on Ebay and the Trading Post plenty of good Ali framed 16ft Millard's (Viscount Supreme's are also ali framed too?) for around 2-3000 bucks.
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Post by millard1399 on Apr 26, 2010 10:50:48 GMT 10
myblueheaven, if you haven't already done so, have a read of this thread about Tips for buying a Classic Caravan. It's an attempt by members to gather information about what to look for when thinking of buying a Classic caravan, but is equally applicable to any caravan. The thread is evolving, and can be added to by anyone who thinks of new information. There are some bargains out there. I'm a keen gatherer of historic information about the Classic and Vintage vans, so I'm always looking through ebay and the Trading Post websites. Having looked at hundreds and hundreds of vans on the internet over the last four years, I sometimes wish I had room for a dozen vans after seeing some of the standout vans on offer. No guarantees they would be ok, but they certainly gave a great first impression. So, have a read through the buying tips thread. It's a great starting point! ;D And yep, if you see something you're interested in, by all means post questions in the General section of this forum, and we'll be only too happy to help. cheers, Al.
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Post by mike on Apr 27, 2010 11:49:53 GMT 10
Greetings Al, ;D Congratulations on a job well done on that Millard!! ;D ;D ;D Go and have a holiday in it now!! Cheers ;D ;D ;D Mike
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Post by millard1399 on Apr 27, 2010 13:17:57 GMT 10
Hey Mike, welcome back, and thanks for your good wishes. Maybe cross paths with you on the open road one day! ;D myblueheaven, I didn't answer your question above about me being a chippie. Nup, worked 36 years in the local steelworks...many years in the technical and quality control areas, then as a production manager, then the final years in training and development. My interest in timber just started as a hobby in the early 1970s. Build a shelf here and a bench seat there. Got more experienced and decided to have a go at building the extensions on our house back in the early 1980s. That worked out ok, so built a double garage on the block as well. Helped a friend build their double garage. One thing led to another. Got interested in furniture restoration, and dabbled in that for a while. Just learning as I went. No training and no qualifications. I always remember a quote from my training days that said, "If you think you can't, you're probably right!". I just like to have a go at stuff. Provided nobody can get hurt or it's not going to create a safety issue, what's the worst that can happen? You stuff it up? Big deal...try again. Caravan restoration is a bit of fun along the way, a few headaches, and no money at the end. Drinking alcohol is a bit of fun along the way, a few...Whoa! Same thing!! We can easily do one...why not the other?? I would encourage anyone...just get in and have a go. Sewing curtains and sewing poptop canvas? Never done it before...but have now . (Funnily enough, myblueheaven, my son ended up doing a carpenter's apprenticeship and is now a fully qualified builder. Who would have thought a parent could have such an influence on their child?? ) cheers, Al.
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Post by kylarama on Apr 27, 2010 13:31:01 GMT 10
I'm a keen gatherer of historic information about the Classic and Vintage vans, so I'm always looking through ebay and the Trading Post websites. Having looked at hundreds and hundreds of vans on the internet over the last four years, I sometimes wish I had room for a dozen vans after seeing some of the standout vans on offer. No guarantees they would be ok, but they certainly gave a great first impression. Hey Al, how about starting a thread for vans you come across on Ebay and Trading Post? Not every classic van for sale just ones you think are rare, dirt cheap, worth restoring or would be a good buy. Would be a big help to newbies and might inspire a few of us to add to the collection.
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Post by millard1399 on Apr 27, 2010 19:01:53 GMT 10
kylarama, if you keep adding to your family, you're gonna NEED another van just for yourself!! I understand what you're asking, but I can see some difficulties with the idea. By definition, bargains are snapped up quickly. By the time I posted the info, and people came across it, the van would have long gone. Ebay is useless for bargains. Everybody at each other's throats to "claim the prize". Ebay is great for establishing the "market value" of things. Follow it often enough, and you can easily work out when someone is bidding over the real value. The best bargains are in the Trading Post, or in newspaper classifieds, where the seller has clearly listed the van with an incorrect valuation. Then it's a matter of being the first person at the door with the money. Each Saturday morning, I get our local paper and have a squiz through the classifieds. In the motoring section a couple of weeks ago there was a 1984 Commodore, "genuine 74,000kms, good condition, pensioner rego, $1500." $1500??!! How long do you think that lasted before being snapped up??! Probably as soon as the first paper from the printers hit the street! And so it would be with vans. I think the way tassietiger did it was a good idea. Saw something he liked, and came on the forum to ask opinions about the van. Gave it the boot and went looking for something else. He's learnt a lot along the way, and now he can add his opinion to others about whether a van is worth it or not. Same story with myblueheaven above. cheers, Al.
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Post by kylarama on Apr 27, 2010 23:11:53 GMT 10
Don't worry, all breeding has ceased in our household. The girlie is talking about having me neutered I don't know about this. The thought of wearing a bucket around my neck for a month doesn't sound appealing! As for another van, I would love to get hold of a 20ish foot tandem axle Viscount Supreme, their a great looking van. Do a full strip out and fit a modern interior with all the mod cons. Something more for long term stays, not touring. A friend knows of what he thinks is a tandem axle Viscount sitting in the front yard of a country town home in southern Victoria. Owner wants to get rid of it, but is not actively trying. $600 is the rumored figure that could seal the deal. When I get a spare weekend (yeah right!) I might go for a look see. I see what you mean about the for sale thread, but it could still be worthwhile. Alot of vans don't sell on Ebay or sit in the Trading post for a while. So either they are over priced or supply is greater than demand.
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Post by atouchofglass on Apr 28, 2010 7:38:35 GMT 10
My interest in timber just started as a hobby in the early 1970s. One thing led to another. Got interested in furniture restoration, and dabbled in that for a while. Just learning as I went. No training and no qualifications. I always remember a quote from my training days that said, "If you think you can't, you're probably right!". I just like to have a go at stuff. Provided nobody can get hurt or it's not going to create a safety issue, what's the worst that can happen? You stuff it up? Big deal...try again. cheers, Al. Hey Al You have summed up the spirit of those that are willing to give it a go. We try this and that because we have the opportunity to do something not tried before. I don't know about you blokes but adreniline is in short supply at my place these days. But when you have a spray gun or a new tool of dest eerr contruction it seems to flow readily. ;D ;D ;D You get scared sh.... less and yet give it a go anyway. The results while rarely perfect are usually pretty good. Any stuff ups are put down to the learning curve. It's a cheap apprenticeship and faster than any normally done. Starting small and working up from there is always a good idea All the stuff I've done have been learnt that way Fibreglassing, cabinetry, glazing, welding, spraypainting, vinyl laying, laminating ect ect All learnt by giving it a go As well as other things not related to caravans Distilling, home brewing, copper welding That is also part of why you do up an old caravan Who gives a rats if some of it needs to be redone.... There really is no time limit and you are the only one that has to appreciate the results.... And the other half of course... ;D ;D ;D ;D You're a man after my own heart Al Keep the photos coming Cheers Atog
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Post by millard1399 on Apr 28, 2010 21:18:49 GMT 10
Hey atog, sounds like we think alike! ;D ;D Well folks, the Millard arrived back home today after a week away at my brother's workshop, where it's been having the brakes done. The brake shoes had to be sent to Sydney for rebonding, so that job, plus the Anzac Day weekend, stretched things out a bit. The drums needed remachining because they were slightly egg shaped. My brother, apart from being a mechanic for 28 years, has also been a die-hard water skier, so he's experimented a lot with boat trailers and bearings over the years. The Millard ended up with Timken bearings, plus he sealed the bearings to prevent water getting in. The leading brake shoe on each side had worn down to the rivets. The lagging shoe on each side was almost like it had just left the factory. The brake operator slides and the shoe adjusters were all frozen with rust and dirt, so he freed all those up again. Doesn't look like the brake system has had much maintenance over the years. Total cost was $460, including 2 bearing sets ($70), shoe rebonding ($60), and drum machining ($44), plus a few other parts. I don't get any "family discount", so I pay his going labour rate. If you're looking at having the brakes done on your van, you can use my total figure as a guideline. ------------------------------------------------------ After picking the van up from the workshop, I took it over to the local weighbridge, to sort out the weight after restoration. I couldn't unhook it from the car (weighbridge too busy), so the 700kgs on the docket doesn't include the ball weight. When I got it home, I measured the ball weight using the "beam balance" method on the bathroom scales, and then confirmed the weight directly on the scales... The beam balance method will tell you if you are going to exceed the maximum weight the bathroom scales can handle. You just need to make sure the cross beam is horizontal; the tow bar is equal distance between the scales and the other end; and the drawbar is roughly horizontal when you wind the jockey wheel up out of the way. Using the beam balance method, the scales read 49kgs. Subtract 7kgs for the weight of the timber and brick already on the scales, and I get 42kgs. Multiply that by 2 to get the total ball weight. 2 x 42 = 84 kgs. This won't exceed the scales limit, so a direct weighing can be done for comparison. I put the scales under the jockey wheel, and wound the wheel down till the drawbar was horizontal. Reading was 85kgs, compared with the other method of 84kgs. Near enough! ;D Tare weight of the van is now up to 700kgs plus 85 kgs. However, I had taken the seat cushions and the table out of the van, plus the full gas bottle, before it went away. Add those weights back into the mix: Full gas bottle = 18.5kgs Seat cushions = 9kgs Table = 9kgs Total = 36.5kgs 700 + 85 + 36.5 = (say) 820kgs (versus the original stated weight on the rego of 760kgs) I'll remeasure the ball weight tomorrow when I put the cushions, table, and gas bottle back in. ------------------------------------------------------- Finally, the new Millard stickers and the Classic Caravan stickers were applied this afternoon... The van is now officially completed!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D It has been given the name of "The Millard Manor" (although it probably should be called the Millard Mini Manor - too many M's though methinks ) The dog thought it should be called the "Millard Rice Bubble", as in 'Snap, Crackle and Poptop'. I've never seen a dog giggle hysterically before. They shake all over - not just the tail. She stopped pretty quickly when I shoved a bone up her nostril for being a smart ass. cheers, Al.
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Post by philouise on Apr 29, 2010 10:32:38 GMT 10
G'day Al.
Really great job - glad you'l be on the road soon.
Just my opinion, but i think RTA for the blue slip will want the weighbridge docket to show tare weight - i dont think they will take your calculation of total tare weight - i could be wrong. Also - maybe - i think the blue slip will reqiure the inspector to stamp a new number on the 'a' frame - a really long number too.
All the best. Phil.
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Post by atouchofglass on Apr 29, 2010 11:01:35 GMT 10
Just my opinion, but i think RTA for the blue slip will want the weighbridge docket to show tare weight - i dont think they will take your calculation of total tare weight - i could be wrong. Also - maybe - i think the blue slip will reqiure the inspector to stamp a new number on the 'a' frame - a really long number too. All the best. Phil. Hey Gents With my Olympic the Main Roads asked for a Roadworthy Certificate When in the registration office they asked the weight and I gave them the original weight of 850kg There was no paperwork on it as they realised it was a 40+ year old van It seemed to satisfy them. But perhaps I just got the right person at the time. I'd be asking what they require and let them do the talking Cause if you ask "do you need a weighbridge cert." They just might answer YES. Let's face it the vans we do up are in far better nick than most of the ten year old vans on the road today. As Philou says "Just my opinion." Hope it all goes well for you Cheers Atog
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