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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 21:32:08 GMT 10
Heres plan i drew up on the interior design id like, it looks ok on paper but ive no experience in how practical it will be. Any tips will be great to know before i start ripping out current interior. its all to scale.
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Post by annieoakley on May 16, 2013 22:46:06 GMT 10
I am no expert but I am interested in your design and love the professional look of your design. I would also like to have a single bunk over a double in my van, although I would like mine removable when I use my annex and convert it back to seating. I have a couple of questions for you. 1. Where does the ladder for the bunk go and how is the bunk supported? 2. There isn't much bench space so why is there a gap between the chair and the sink?
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2013 0:38:44 GMT 10
Hi Nathan and Annie Oakley. I have just gone through the whole exercise of ripping everything out, relining, and putting back a new layout. Some of the lessons I learnt include:
1) Plan everything in as much detail before you start relining to make sure you get all the powerpoints, lights and TV aerial point exactly where you want them if you are rewiring. Once the lining goes back in it is too late to change your mind about powerpoint or light positions!
2) Planning a a new layout in an old caravan is not like planning a house where everything is square. In most older caravans the floor curves up to become the wall at the front and the back, and those wheel arches take up a huge amount of space. With old Viscounts the front and rear overhead lockers form part of the structure and can't be removed. 3) Remember the 3D aspect of your van, especially the curve in the ceiling. Like you I drew up what I thought to be the perfect floorplan, however I also drew up internal elevations to be sure of ceiling heights and window positions. I soon discovered that what looks great in plan often doesn't work as well when looking at the internal elevation. I ended up throwing away three floorplans and starting again until I was happy with the whole design. 4) Draw everything to scale and check drawn sizes with reality. For instance is your toilet pan really that big? Is there actually room to use the toilet when the door is closed? I drew everything at 1:20 scale, which is big, to get the details right.
Best of luck with your project,
Remaim (who is probably not such a newbie now)
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Post by Rattles on May 17, 2013 12:29:02 GMT 10
In the late 60's I had a Viscount Ambassador with double bed in a similar layout as the on you proposal ie the double bed was boxed in on 4 sides with a gap between the cupboards the only access and my wife found the only to make the bed was sit on the bed to tuck the far side and the two ends, it may not be as big a problem now with the use of fitted sheets, since the all my vans have had island beds.
Rattles
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2013 12:50:06 GMT 10
I used an android app on my tablet to draw it up. Floor Plan Creator 1. Where does the ladder for the bunk go and how is the bunk supported? Its reduced sized double bed, 1200mm wide. And its the step to get to the top bed. Gap isn't that great so its not a big leap. 2. There isn't much bench space so why is there a gap between the chair and the sink? Better access to seating. That kitchen section needs reworking, smaller sink and oven, then i might be able to have a small bench. and those wheel arches take up a huge amount of space. yeah those wheel arches threw things out a bit, i was planning on having a full sized home oven but not now.
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Post by bobt on May 21, 2013 21:29:22 GMT 10
Gidday nathanboxa
It is always a challenge trying to get the design right. Harder if you have never used one. If you have well it is just not that easy to get it all the way you want.
Had an east west bed in a caravan once. The one against the wall always had to climb over the other to get in an out for that mid night snack or what ever. With the bunk over the top, can they get out of yours? Making that bed, using fitted sheets and a doona is going to be a real pain in the proverbial, not a problem if your just going to use it for the odd weekend after a couple of weeks continuous, you will hate it.
Go visit a couple of caravan yards and sit inside sus out the layouts. I like the front chair dinette thingie, never had a van with it, my father does and his bench goes right up to the 'chair' the table twists and slides so it is not an issue getting to sit, me I would not like to lose the cupboard space.
Good luck..
bobt
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Post by glennv on May 22, 2013 12:07:19 GMT 10
I can vouch for the East/West bed problem. My partner and I end up playing "there were 2 in the bed, and the little one said...." each time someone has to get up in the middle of the night. Glenn.
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