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Post by atefooterz on Jul 25, 2016 20:23:35 GMT 10
My main gripe with the local stuff is they seem to increase in weight, with each new popular tug release upgrade spec. :)In for example Vincents day the average v8 would pull her no worries however that size and increased spec for SWIMBO approval, in a modern, is almost double. A reason the 18` Elldis ( without water damage etc) looked the goods for features and towability (KG). Indeed. At risk of drawing things too far from Classic Caravans, our modern is a 2007 UK Bailey. Its almost 19', but single axle and around 1200 kg. I pull it with a Rav4. Tim I think in the true spirit of Classic Caravans, that were mainly built around a big 6 or small V8, when we rebuild/ reimagine a classic keeping, weight in mind is key. Shelley here & other sites has recently had to weld a bowed & cracked chassis that was oblivously renovated to the max from ikea and with heavy marble benchtops... jks  |
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Post by bobt on Aug 17, 2016 21:39:59 GMT 10
The 6 cylinder and v8 motor cars of the 80s, 70s and earlier never had the horsepower or the torque of todays 4 cylinder cars.
As for caravan weights I would think that a 14 foot full height 2016 4 berth caravan would not be as heavy as a 1980s equivalent caravan. Building materials have change significantly. You dont find chip board anywhere in a new one. Chassis, furniture and fittings are all lighter today.
A little off track, I recently read an article about a new caravan that had a bath in it, the writer thought this was a new innovation.. I thought fhat was rather funny. The only thing that is new in new caravans is the technology, baths showers toilets fridges stovens ovens they have all been around as long as the caravan..😃
Meanwhile.. stick to your Classic.
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Post by atefooterz on Aug 17, 2016 23:54:31 GMT 10
The interesting thing is it is not really possible to compare a 70s 4 berth to todays for almost the same reason as a first home of a 70s couple can not be compared with todays folks. One bed unit until the kids kick in then trade up to a humble abobe, compared to wanting and borrowing to get a 4 bed 3500sqft marble topped twin sinks in the ensuite mc mansion that is todays demand. Build wise the weight per squre metre of 3/16th"lightweight paper ply compared to the high density 5mm compressed or 5mm plantation pine ply board, means that new is heavier. Even (when first installed dry) chipboard those 1/2" sheets are at least 25% lighter than the 15-25mm stuff most now use ( ply or MDF). I am sure that if a caravan was fitted with period features like the shower & toilet, to the new build specs, it would have to be heavier than much of the newer products. Time to bite the bullet and build a modern classic. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 6:19:01 GMT 10
This was a hot subject in our house re lack of ensuite in the Viscount after 14 years of a motorhome with full ensuite and all the bells and whistles but 'Er indoors has settled down and is prepared to "suffer" the Viscount for short weekend outings or up to a week as long as I promise to stay in caravan parks  something we have NEVER done in the motorhome  and as long as I keep the motorhome for longer trips , originally the plan was to sell the motorhome but looks like it is the deal breaker with the new van . Which Btw is nearly ready to rock'n'roll with new bed,fridge,polish and pimp even got some full chrome wheel trims and thin white wall flappers so she matches the Z car next is to make some spats and we are done , not up to "Vincent" standards but the bling is happening huge job polishing all that aluminum trim  |
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something we have NEVER done in the motorhome 
and as long as I keep the motorhome for longer trips , originally the plan was to sell the motorhome but looks like it is the deal breaker with the new van . Which Btw is nearly ready to rock'n'roll with new bed,fridge,polish and pimp even got some full chrome wheel trims and thin white wall flappers so she matches the Z car 