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Post by keelz on Apr 22, 2008 22:09:35 GMT 10
Hi Folks Need some advice. The curved corner windows (perspex) of my Viscount supreme are currently leaking and i am about to start the re-sealing process. I was contemplating whether i should replace the perished glazing rubbers with new rubber from Camec or should i just mask the perspex and frame and use a neutral cure glazing silicon to get a more water resistant joint? I think half the problem at the moment is that where they originally cut the mitred 45 corners they didn't seal them very well inside the frame where the perspex sits, this means that each 4 corners of the frame has a tendency to allow water to track in between the perspex and the frame (where the glazing bead has shrunk, perished etc) then it tracks to the bottom corners and then into the van, destroying the window sill and anything timber as it goes!  Apart from checking the inside of the frame when i remove the perspex and sealing it up with some Sikaflex, if I use glazing silicon with a neat tooled finish instead of new glazing bead would this be a good idea? or would I be better to just stick with new glazing bead? Any thoughts or comments suggestions would be appreciated if anyone has fixed these before thanks! Keelz |
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Post by kiwijim on Apr 24, 2008 9:01:39 GMT 10
G,Day Keelz,
As a full time caravan repairer I would recommend you replace the window rubbers on your Viscount with new insertion rubber which is available from Camec (it is here in the West),
The secret in leak prevention on the corners is to only nick the inner edge of the rubber, soak it in a bucket of warm soapy water and use a fly screen roller to push the rubber into place, start the rubber at the top center of your window and continue around the whole window until you are back at the starting point,
before cutting off the excess rubber allow a little extra for shrinkage then force the joints together.
you can use a silicone sealer in place of rubber but it's a heck of a hard job removing it if you ever have to replace the window in the future.
hope this is some help.
Cheers kiwijim ;D
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Post by keelz on Apr 24, 2008 22:24:15 GMT 10
thanks Kiwijim i appreciate the advice from someone who has done it before ;D
The weather in Sydney is wet wet wet so i'm hoping for a dry spell over this long weekend ;D
I've seen the bead to suit both the 3mm and 5mm glazing thickness. It seems on the corner curved perspex panels they used a 5mm bead whereas on the glass windows they used the 3mm glazing bead which is fatter.
When you described nicking the bead does this mean you get a stanley knife and place a slight cut in the back edge of the rubber that sits against the perspex to help the bead sit into the sharp corners properly?
thanks
Keelz
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Post by kiwijim on Apr 25, 2008 6:38:29 GMT 10
G.Day Keelz,
Glad to be of help, Yes you are right, use a Stanley and make a nick about half the depth of the rubber on the inner edge for a right-angle corner and several nicks for a rounded one, another way of making it easier to fit the rubber is to spray the frame and glass or perspex with CRC or WD40, the thickness of the insertion rubber is determined by the thickness of your glass or perspex, being 2.5, 3.00mm or what ever it may be.
best of luck with the refit and weather,
kiwijim ;D
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Post by keelz on Jun 14, 2008 21:47:24 GMT 10
Well before it continued raining again over the last couple of weeks i managed to get the two back curved windows 're-beaded'. Thanks Kiwijim for the tips and pointers, the WD-40 was a hit, as well as soaking it in a bit of warm water in a bucket while i was preparing for installation..... a beggar of a job with frazzled fingers after a couple of well spent hours. Got to get up the motivation to work my way down both sides of the van now, do the easy ones then tackle the front curved perspex set... Now have a new protector shade over the back so combined with new glazing beads and some sealant in a few places its now staying much drier inside...the chipboard and plywood can breath a sigh of relief!  On the topic of chipboard, why on earth did man ever start using that stuff in a caravan??  Keelz |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 6:38:18 GMT 10
Hi Keelz, iknow its been a long time since this was posted, but in the off chance you are still around I was wondering where you got the replacement curved window from for the viscount?
Cheers
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Post by ForumMod on Nov 28, 2013 9:17:47 GMT 10
G'day loulou, and welcome to the forum!  Former member keelz left us long ago, and is not likely to read your post. However, there have been a number of other people who needed to replace the curved windows on their Viscounts and have successfully done so. If you don't already know, there are two forums on the internet covering these old vans in Australia - this Classic Caravans forum for vans made from 1970 to 1979, and our sister forum for Vintage caravans built before 1970 (www.vintagecaravans.com). There are people on the Vintage forum who have had new curved windows made for their Viscounts built in the 1960s. It seems you just need to find someone in your region who can bend the perspex or acrylic sheeting. If you are clever with your hands, you can even make your own 'jig' to bend them yourself, as this old thread from 2008 shows: Viscount Curved Windows- FreebieHopefully someone on this forum who has had new curved windows made for their Viscount can tell how they did it. The van I can remember being done recently is actually on the Vintage forum, and is a 1963 Viscount. If you click on this link, and scroll down to Reply #32 (about half-way down the page), you'll see the new lexan panels in position: V2 Viscount reno beginsHope this helps, cheers, Al. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 17:26:41 GMT 10
Hi Al, Great, thanks so much for the information, we have just bought a 78 Viscount Supreme, (pending checking the number on the draw bar) and there are a few things that need fixing on it that we are going to have to search for again thanks a lot Loulou |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 7:31:15 GMT 10
G'day loulou, and welcome to the forum! Former member keelz left us long ago, and is not likely to read your post. However, there have been a number of other people who needed to replace the curved windows on their Viscounts and have successfully done so. If you don't already know, there are two forums on the internet covering these old vans in Australia - this Classic Caravans forum for vans made from 1970 to 1979, and our sister forum for Vintage caravans built before 1970 (www.vintagecaravans.com). There are people on the Vintage forum who have had new curved windows made for their Viscounts built in the 1960s. It seems you just need to find someone in your region who can bend the perspex or acrylic sheeting. If you are clever with your hands, you can even make your own 'jig' to bend them yourself, as this old thread from 2008 shows: Viscount Curved Windows- FreebieHopefully someone on this forum who has had new curved windows made for their Viscount can tell how they did it. I am making curved windows for my viscount supreme 22 footer at the moment ,I have made a form from the old window and am replacing with 3mm tinted acrylic ,also replacing the other windows to the tinted for looks .I will post a picture of the form and also the finished product in case someone may be interested |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 6:50:27 GMT 10
Hi there ,
Wow that's great!, would love to see images when your through and any advise, tackling these our self, we have started pulling things out and can see now that all the curved windows have been painted out on the inside of the van, which is such a shame ! And we have a broken one in the back, we have a 77 viscount supreme 20 ft , and I am loving this forum, we have got such great advice already, I just bought new decals from a link in here too.
I look forward to seeing your images , where did you get your Perspex from and did you cut it to size your self, if so was it easy to do ?
Loulou
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2013 13:14:06 GMT 10
I have taken some progress images 
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2014 19:23:31 GMT 10
Hey I am replacing the same windows on my Viscount. Any chance you could make 4 more at a reasonable price?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2014 7:45:35 GMT 10
Hey I am replacing the same windows on my Viscount. Any chance you could make 4 more at a reasonable price? cant see why not ,I still have to make another two for the back windows yet ,I,ve got the acrylic already .what colour acrylic are you after . you never know someone on this site may help me with a problem down the road |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2014 19:42:38 GMT 10
That dark tint I see in the picture would be fine. I am planning on tinting the rest of my windows anyway. Anything darker would be fine as well. Where are you located out of curiosity? I am in the Perth WA area.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 6:40:41 GMT 10
That dark tint I see in the picture would be fine. I am planning on tinting the rest of my windows anyway. Anything darker would be fine as well. Where are you located out of curiosity? I am in the Perth WA area. I am in qld, ,you would have to take a window out of the van disassemble from the frame and give me the overall measurements of the existing acrylic so that I can check them against what I have here and adjust as necessary |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 12:58:00 GMT 10
Window height is 55cm, width with curve is 43cm in length, and the radius is approx 20.1cm. The height itself varies from approx 54 to 55cm not too sure if it's just a bad cut on the replacement window I had in there, but 55 cm will definitely fit in the frame. You can email me here so we can take this off topic: pblarose@gmail.com.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 9:33:00 GMT 10
Digging up an old thread here! But Tom, do you happen to still have those window jigs, or be interested in making up 4x corner windows? I am also in Brisbane.
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Post by Mustang on Apr 18, 2016 14:28:06 GMT 10
Digging up an old thread here! But Tom, do you happen to still have those window jigs, or be interested in making up 4x corner windows? I am also in Brisbane. Thanks Joel I had my windows made in Caloundra, only approx 1 hour from Brisbane.  |
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Post by sally on May 30, 2016 18:42:43 GMT 10
hello all,
i too am after replacement curve windows for my 28 ft viscount caravan. i live in northern nsw so i would love the contact details for the caloundra business. thanks everyone. great forum. sally
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Post by Mustang on May 31, 2016 19:51:31 GMT 10
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Post by sally on Dec 31, 2016 21:55:05 GMT 10
thanks so much mustang. i'm finally following up the windows!
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Post by Pockets on May 24, 2017 14:54:09 GMT 10
Hi there, I have a dog wash trailer and I'm after a front sliding window. Do you guys make Windows to merger ?.
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